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welcome back everybody to disclosure

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team for another live interview

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this is I'm still going to get used to

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doing this intro now that I have a

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co-host so let's just bring her in uh

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we're waiting for Dan to to arrive so

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guys please welcome my co-host Katie

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Katie how's it going it's going good how

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are you doing I'm doing great it's good

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to have you I'm really looking forward

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to this conversation if he ever gets

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here yeah I mean maybe maybe we just

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said that Dan was coming to get everyone

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to show up because that's my favorite

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nah he'll be here he'll be here but um

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before he gets here like we've got a few

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talking points we might as well jump

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into one and I think it's an important

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point is discussing the UFO community

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and what it how it breaks down with

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podcasts and people from from different

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angles so what are your thoughts on that

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yeah so one of the things that I've been

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chatting actually with Dan about a lot

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recently and other folks is how do we

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grow the community and a really positive

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and productive way you know what I mean

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kind of hit our saturation with podcasts

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and interviews and things like that and

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so the question becomes how do we

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develop systems and projects and

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research that not only like brought into

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the tent brings more people in but also

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is a higher quality of Engagement

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um what do you think

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I'm all if people want to do podcasts

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I'm all up for it I was you know the

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same when I started but I do think

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you're right that going forward with

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everything that's happening you know

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with Congress and arrow Now sort of

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there is room for us to to do more you

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know and not just talk about doing more

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it's very easy to say oh I'd like to do

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this or I'm going to do this but to

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actually go and do it there's a

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different story so yeah

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absolutely and I think you could do

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everything from advocacy organizations

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to private research grants to

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um you know feature film projects

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independent research and I know Dan has

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a lot of ideas in that realm so I think

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he might be in our Green Room I think he

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is so let's bring him in and we can

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actually continue this part of the

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conversation so uh guys and yeah

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everybody in the live chat thank you for

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being here I didn't do the intro it

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threw me off because uh I'm not used to

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saying but everyone please keep the chat

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cool calm and collected please pop any

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questions in capital letters and we will

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try and ask them at some point but let's

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bring him in he's coming all the way

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from Mexico my good friend and colleague

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here he is hello hello sorry I'm a few

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minutes late but you know I know that

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you guys can hold down the fort like

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like professionals so uh yeah sorry I

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was um I was on the Mexican kind of uh

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chill time where you you asked for the

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bill and maybe like 20 minutes later

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someone thinks about bringing it and you

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know it works pretty well most times but

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I'm glad you're there yeah

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so you all all coffeed up ready to chat

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about ancient sites and UFOs and

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everything all coffeed up um I was

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basically I was in a cafe and I was kind

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of grabbing a bunch of photos and things

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like that for the things that we're

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them in an album so that you know you

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you guys uh kind of get to see the

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concise travel limits the cool bits

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well listen me and Kate were just

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talking about uh something but I'm just

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so so Vinnie can we talk about the

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elephant in the room tumor

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trust me we will get to that it is on

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the list of things to talk about in the

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oh it's like pizza gate 2.0 it was the

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the that whole conversation went from

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questionable pineapple on pizza and then

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so we'll discuss that trajectory and

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people can get angry about it not to

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mention the fact that some people

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legitimately thought I had quit the show

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over it which to be honest there was a

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small moment where I considered it but

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I'm here that's cool but yeah so we were

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just talking about like the um the UFO

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of grow going forward and and Katie was

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suggesting more advocacy and more

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private research and stuff like that

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you know for the rest of this year at

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least yeah for sure so we're kind of

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what Lou was talking about I think he

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spoke about it one of the first times on

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your show Vinnie um on this very show

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um I forgot where it was then uh but it

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was to do with the five pillars where

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different areas uh that we kind of need

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to consider when when putting forward

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the UAP conversation and they were kind

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wider world because you know we've got a

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bunch of people here there are a bunch

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of people in the conversation but we're

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like it's preaching to the choir there

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are almost eight billion other people on

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the planet that need an on-rem for this

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monsters of California and kind of

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seeing these ideas in uh you know Steven

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out and as big as it was because of him

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entertainment to kind of bring people on

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political advocacy so there's a lot of

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about Big Oil lobbying Congress to get

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you know where's Big UAP yeah right if I

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about doing something similar to the big

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phone home which which was great but I

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thing the way things are moving is

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away from the positive impact of the big

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phone home it's more about doing it in a

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new way and probably more regular and

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things I've seen is a need to really

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have a coordinated

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we're all on the same page we're we all

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have different ideas of you know what we

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get more gimbal footage or whether it

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would be great to get more money for

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all be a bit split sometimes and you

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know folk like Midwest he'll say the UFO

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when the truth is it's kind of only a

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loose affiliation of you know believing

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that something else is here that kind of

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describes this as a community beyond

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that we all have completely different

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beliefs and we're all across you know

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data we think there's something there we

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the other side I wouldn't say what's

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right and left here but you know some

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people believe that there are beings

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all just you know Sky trash is is the

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new phrase when you call phrase the kids

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2022-2023 uh ndaa uh we're going to

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start seeing legislation language come

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through so I'm really pleased that uh

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maybe please isn't the wrong word but

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encouraged by the response to these

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shoot Downs uh you know the 16 senators

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all signing that letter to probably find

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interagency task force which I think

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starting to push that way now uh because

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yeah National Security was a great angle

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for this and that's the language that

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people that are interested in our

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defense speak you know it makes sense

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that that's with them

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interagency task force at the National

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Security Council and I was really

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encouraged to see that that's going to

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be led by Jake Sullivan

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um because Jake was my White House

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mentor's boss for for a while and he's

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think he's going to be a great person to

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follow the data

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um and he is not a fool so he's not

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going to take any any BS so that was

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really encouraging to see that's awesome

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and and just to touch on something that

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I think is important there you know we

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we keep hearing people lament that

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certain groups aren't working together

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for me I think it's important to have

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these distinct different piles of data

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so we can cross-reference them and kind

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of go oh look at that we found the same

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thing in that data pile as we did in

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that data file and those people didn't

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work together this is how peer review

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works it's essentially what we're

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getting if that happens

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um so we want our to do something we

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want the Galileo project to do its own

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thing sounds classified data uopx or and

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this interagency task force the more

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kind of act that we have coming at this

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the better

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oh great yeah totally well um

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let's talk about you Dad that's why

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we're here we're here to talk about what

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you've been up to and stuff like that

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and you've been out of the country out

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of the UK now for quite some time and it

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all started with you flying to New York

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City for an inquiry into anomalous

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experiences and the phenomena the

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conference put on by our good friend

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James and and Jay so can you just give

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us a bit of a well tell us about what

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that conference was like for you who you

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met and how you felt it went overall

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yeah you know in New York they say a

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concrete jungle that dreams are made of

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I would say concrete conference the

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dreams are made of uh this is the second

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one they've done now and it's fantastic

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um they Jay and sorry who was involved

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from Miami we so we had Kelly from UFO

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rabbit Hall

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um we had Priscilla as well from the

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quantum Woods channel uh we had James

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iandoli from engaging the phenomena and

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we had Jay who heads of the experience

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group and also uh co-hosts on witness

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Citizen and they put together both times

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an amazing uh lineup of people the kind

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kind of ranged from people trying to

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quantify the woo you know Sharon Hallett

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was kind of you know one one of the

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standouts for a lot of people the wild

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card will say she spoke about

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synchronicity and coincidence and how

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one person's kind of magical moment can

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be completely mundane to someone else

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and that could be a system of balance uh

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which I thought was really cool

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uh and then we had right over to

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Christopher melon talking about the ndaa

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with Leslie Kane which was super special

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uh as well as meeting her production

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partners and kind of seeing a few clips

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from the show that is now airing that

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people are really enjoying uh where

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we're here in uh you know that third

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elusive author of The 2017 article Helen

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Cooper the New York Times Pentagon

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defense correspondent and she gets so

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excited and animated in the series that

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you know it's infectious uh and it's

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been a long time coming that she gets to

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talk about this too the people that were

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in the crowd you know we had Jay from

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Project Unity uh I lost count I'm just

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gonna my brain's first and even trying

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to think Mitch Horowitz was incredible

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to me you know Gary Nolan Christopher

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melon Ralph Blumenthal just it was

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incredible

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um and then there were also kind of

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after conference dinners as well that

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people got to to attend and just you

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know talk freely at them because what I

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love about getting together with people

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from the community and I'm sure you guys

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kind of find the same thing is we get

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finally get to use the shorthand you

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know if I say to my friends oh hey if

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you you know try human initiated

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contacts they'll kind of go what what is

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that and who are you and who is Dan gone

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um whereas with you guys you just kind

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of go oh yeah sure I know what you mean

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and Stephen Curry is the missionarama

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stuff and you know we we can kind of get

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a bit more traction in the conversations

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as well as you know having wine and

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knocking the glasses over and Katie you

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know that is a little judgmental I want

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to make it very clear I did that before

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I had any of the wine yeah this is true

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yeah

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it was a rough rough day for me no but

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it was it was great and it was great

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meeting you there and I think that's one

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of the wonderful things about these

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conferences is getting to connect with

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people in person

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um I saw a few comments that were asking

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about how do we build a more positive uh

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environment you know and get away from

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the trolls and the drama and the arguing

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and I think what I what I really

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appreciate about those events is how

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positive they were because I think at

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the end of the day you know we all care

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about the same things and it's easier to

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humanize people and you can meet face to

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face and have these conversations so

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Vinnie are you going to make your way

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out for any any conferences this year so

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we can meet you

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well we're all meeting up in Roswell in

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end of June but I do want to go to New

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York so maybe it was the uh if they do

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another one in October November of 2023

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then I might see if I can get out to NYC

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for that I I hear such things might be

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in the works I'm not surprised that

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would be amazing uh so yeah

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so yeah so obviously you did that in New

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York it was great I mean we all kind of

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saw it from a fight on Twitter and on

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YouTube with the Channel with them

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dropping the interviews and it did look

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amazing

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um and I'm not surprised so let's talk

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about where you left you know you left

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New York where did you end up and what

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was the plan and let's get into it so so

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the plan was real loose the plan was

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just to go traveling uh because I

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figured that I could be stressed trying

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to you know live life in the UK or be

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stressed traveling and seeing these

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amazing sites so I I didn't you know I

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don't have kids I you know there was no

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kind of career outside of this UFO thing

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that that you know really had going on

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so I was just like cool you know when

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when am I gonna be able to do this in

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life

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um so off I went and I picked the first

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place to start and I know some people

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will kind of go this crazy

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um literally by kind of listening to

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music and watching movies and place

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names just kept coming up um and it was

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the same place named over and over and

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over and it was Mexico so here I am in

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Mexico kind of trying to lean into the

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synchronicities and those kind of

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liminal spaces as well as go in between

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all these kind of magical ancient sites

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and and Mexico is packed with them if

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you do a Google search for just instant

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sites in Mexico you know you'll hear

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about Chichen eater and you'll hear

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about teotu account once you're here you

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hear about you know they the cities are

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literally built on top of them you build

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bump into them while trying to get a

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Starbucks you know it's really hard to

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avoid

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um and it's actually kind of amazing

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that you can just go wandering in the

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park and see everything from you know

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them kind of doing paddle boat rides on

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the lakes to literally walking alongside

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a fountain that's thousands of years old

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oh absolutely and one of the things that

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I was really excited to see you do was

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going to teotihuacan you know there's

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lots of other smaller sites but uh that

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site in particular really fascinates me

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because we still don't know who made it

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a lot of people mistakenly think that it

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was the Aztecs but the Aztecs actually

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had been gone for a thousand years

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before they came upon teotihuacan and at

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the time it was the sixth largest city

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in the world it's bigger than Rome it

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was bigger than Alexandria and we have

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no idea

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where they all went so I just want to

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hear about your impressions of this site

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um what you thought it's quite a large

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city with more than just the pyramids so

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what did you think yeah and that that's

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the other thing that I can't get my head

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around is that we we hear about sites

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like go back to it's happy that they've

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only uncovered you know one one circular

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structure or a couple of circular

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structures and they know there's more on

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the ground they just haven't got to them

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um but I didn't quite realize that that

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was true of these places of Mexico too

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um almost every ancient site here you

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you kind of have the sense that you can

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visit as a tourist but there's work

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going on around There's still uncovering

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them

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um and these these places are sprawling

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they're huge uh and like everywhere else

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in the world they just kind of decide

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their tombs and move on but there's a

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lot more Intrigue there like you said uh

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the

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that doesn't necessarily mean that it

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was the Toltec civilization the word

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itself means Craftsmen of the highest

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level so they're just saying that you

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know someone really skilled made them

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when when we think of ancient sites we

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tend to think that they kind of had

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primitive tools and and ways of thinking

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that's not true that's not true like a

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whole idea of the hunting gatherers and

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these kind of civilizations has to shift

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because they were a lot more advanced

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than we thought and when I say Advanced

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I just want to emphasize I don't mean

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they had laser pens and you know things

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like that I'm just saying they were more

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advanced than you know bow and arrows

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and just hunting they there was

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organization there was political

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structure

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um especially when we think of

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sacrifice you know we tend to depict

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these people as dragging people up to

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the top of the pyramids to sacrifice

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them and that just wasn't the case

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everyone believed that they were doing

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the right thing by sacrificing people so

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it would have been an honor you know and

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that's really hard for us to get our

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heads around

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I think I heard that uh taking table

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Canada is Peak at about a quarter of a

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million people and that's just what we

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know uh it was connected to all sorts of

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sites all around

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um we'll get to Montauk ban later on but

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that site is kind of split

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um and there's loads of robots around

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but the more we uncover the more we

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realized actually all these different

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ruins are one civilization it's not

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multiple different sites so yeah it was

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huge you know it it's

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it's really painful to think of what the

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Spanish did when they got here you know

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uh because they were just people living

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their lives and it's amazing when you

547
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:40,500
kind of come to a place and you you look

548
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:42,000
at the culture that's here instead of

549
00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:44,400
trying to put your culture onto it uh

550
00:19:47,450 --> 00:19:46,260
which has happened so much here but

551
00:19:49,490 --> 00:19:47,460
we'll get to that you'll be able to see

552
00:19:50,990 --> 00:19:49,500
in photos and things like that

553
00:19:53,150 --> 00:19:51,000
um I know of anyone we were in Colombia

554
00:19:56,930 --> 00:19:53,160
the same was kind of true there and

555
00:19:59,270 --> 00:19:56,940
actually the uh the Invaders

556
00:20:01,730 --> 00:19:59,280
um kind of

557
00:20:02,990 --> 00:20:01,740
did did a trick on themselves where they

558
00:20:05,270 --> 00:20:03,000
were trying to stomp out these local

559
00:20:07,430 --> 00:20:05,280
civilizations and get them to convert

560
00:20:09,289 --> 00:20:07,440
from their religions to Christianity but

561
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:09,299
by building churches on their important

562
00:20:13,070 --> 00:20:10,880
sites

563
00:20:15,049 --> 00:20:13,080
them in the right direction all they did

564
00:20:16,730 --> 00:20:15,059
was put a bigger flag in them for us and

565
00:20:18,110 --> 00:20:16,740
and now we can kind of go okay this is

566
00:20:19,610 --> 00:20:18,120
the front and it's pointed North and

567
00:20:21,049 --> 00:20:19,620
that's pointed east and west and oh my

568
00:20:23,390 --> 00:20:21,059
God they seem to have known the cardinal

569
00:20:24,950 --> 00:20:23,400
points you know that's a good point

570
00:20:26,630 --> 00:20:24,960
absolutely I just want to highlight this

571
00:20:28,250 --> 00:20:26,640
comment already gone here

572
00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:28,260
I was thinking the same you know the

573
00:20:31,250 --> 00:20:29,760
Swiss Army Uber said it what about the

574
00:20:33,289 --> 00:20:31,260
pyramids that have flat tops that look

575
00:20:37,490 --> 00:20:33,299
like UFO landing pads now am I right

576
00:20:40,430 --> 00:20:37,500
saying that is it has those so there are

577
00:20:42,350 --> 00:20:40,440
some kind of flashes tops there but I

578
00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:42,360
mean in terms of UFO landing pads I'd

579
00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:43,980
say you know what's a UFO what does it

580
00:20:48,710 --> 00:20:45,840
look like what does a UFO landing pad

581
00:20:50,570 --> 00:20:48,720
look like you know if if you had a

582
00:20:52,549 --> 00:20:50,580
landing pad for say you know it's

583
00:20:54,289 --> 00:20:52,559
original it looks very different from a

584
00:20:55,730 --> 00:20:54,299
plane landing pad or something else

585
00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:55,740
Landing Pad so we have to be careful

586
00:21:00,289 --> 00:20:58,080
when a certain those things but uh

587
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:00,299
Montalban for one was certainly an

588
00:21:04,970 --> 00:21:03,120
artificially leveled mountain top and it

589
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:04,980
blows your mind when you see the scale

590
00:21:08,210 --> 00:21:06,780
of it to just think how long this would

591
00:21:10,549 --> 00:21:08,220
have taken and how they would have gone

592
00:21:11,810 --> 00:21:10,559
about it because like I said these these

593
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,820
people were ingenious they were doing

594
00:21:15,110 --> 00:21:13,679
things that we don't understand and

595
00:21:17,450 --> 00:21:15,120
there's so much technology throughout

596
00:21:19,850 --> 00:21:17,460
history that we've just lost

597
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:19,860
um that we're trying to recover and the

598
00:21:22,669 --> 00:21:21,600
the I think it was the Pentagon and I

599
00:21:25,130 --> 00:21:22,679
can't remember

600
00:21:27,049 --> 00:21:25,140
exactly what it was but there was an

601
00:21:30,110 --> 00:21:27,059
early technique for kind of getting

602
00:21:31,909 --> 00:21:30,120
nuclear material and it was so secretive

603
00:21:33,649 --> 00:21:31,919
that they actually lost the technique

604
00:21:35,450 --> 00:21:33,659
and they had to spend Millions trying to

605
00:21:37,250 --> 00:21:35,460
ReDiscover it and that's just in the

606
00:21:39,409 --> 00:21:37,260
modern era you know that we look at

607
00:21:41,090 --> 00:21:39,419
things like Roman fire fire that worked

608
00:21:43,310 --> 00:21:41,100
on water basically

609
00:21:46,190 --> 00:21:43,320
um was hotter than anything you know we

610
00:21:48,049 --> 00:21:46,200
can produce but there is in Antiquity

611
00:21:49,850 --> 00:21:48,059
and the knowledge is lost to time so

612
00:21:51,110 --> 00:21:49,860
you've got to wonder what else uh you

613
00:21:53,450 --> 00:21:51,120
know what else was here especially when

614
00:21:55,130 --> 00:21:53,460
you considered that when you're you know

615
00:21:57,710 --> 00:21:55,140
Central America we've got all these

616
00:21:59,090 --> 00:21:57,720
jungles therefore plants therefore this

617
00:22:00,409 --> 00:21:59,100
is where medicines come from and I'd

618
00:22:02,630 --> 00:22:00,419
like them talking Ayahuasca and stuff

619
00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:02,640
like that I'm just talking actual you

620
00:22:08,450 --> 00:22:05,159
know paracetamol things like that

621
00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:08,460
um the plants here have properties that

622
00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:10,799
people have used for you know centuries

623
00:22:16,310 --> 00:22:13,020
Millennia probably to to treat certain

624
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:16,320
ailments and to do certain things so as

625
00:22:20,870 --> 00:22:18,720
we've kind of cut all those forests down

626
00:22:22,370 --> 00:22:20,880
oh those jungles down we're losing a lot

627
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,380
of that and we're also losing a lot of

628
00:22:26,330 --> 00:22:24,240
local knowledge as well

629
00:22:29,330 --> 00:22:26,340
um I was speaking to one gentleman the

630
00:22:30,770 --> 00:22:29,340
other day who very very nice guy I was

631
00:22:32,810 --> 00:22:30,780
attracted to a shot through just the

632
00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:32,820
colors in the store and he started

633
00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,860
talking to me about the history and he

634
00:22:39,409 --> 00:22:37,440
was telling me that the the knowledge of

635
00:22:41,330 --> 00:22:39,419
the Mayans is only passed down to the

636
00:22:43,970 --> 00:22:41,340
firstborn son in the family and there

637
00:22:45,890 --> 00:22:43,980
was a break in his family and his

638
00:22:48,830 --> 00:22:45,900
granddad only had a daughter which was

639
00:22:50,570 --> 00:22:48,840
his mother and then he was her firstborn

640
00:22:52,490 --> 00:22:50,580
so he couldn't receive the complete

641
00:22:53,930 --> 00:22:52,500
knowledge he only got bits and he was

642
00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:53,940
happy to share those bits with me and

643
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:55,440
you know it was quite extensive kind of

644
00:23:00,049 --> 00:22:57,840
talking about how they kind of sought

645
00:23:01,490 --> 00:23:00,059
Cosmic energies and that actually we all

646
00:23:03,230 --> 00:23:01,500
came from that and we're all one and

647
00:23:04,430 --> 00:23:03,240
just in case in different bodies and it

648
00:23:06,409 --> 00:23:04,440
was really beautiful you know there's a

649
00:23:08,210 --> 00:23:06,419
sense of community there but he was

650
00:23:09,409 --> 00:23:08,220
saying that even he doesn't have all the

651
00:23:11,330 --> 00:23:09,419
knowledge because it would break

652
00:23:12,770 --> 00:23:11,340
tradition to give it to him so you've

653
00:23:14,270 --> 00:23:12,780
got to wonder just how much has been

654
00:23:17,330 --> 00:23:14,280
lost to time

655
00:23:19,250 --> 00:23:17,340
wow absolutely and I really appreciated

656
00:23:21,289 --> 00:23:19,260
something you said Dan when you were

657
00:23:23,029 --> 00:23:21,299
talking about you know how ingenious

658
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,039
they were and the technology they had I

659
00:23:26,450 --> 00:23:24,960
think it's really important and I really

660
00:23:29,330 --> 00:23:26,460
appreciated about this and your answer

661
00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:29,340
that as much as we love UFOs that we

662
00:23:33,049 --> 00:23:31,140
don't automatically assume that anything

663
00:23:34,909 --> 00:23:33,059
with ancient cultures has to do with

664
00:23:36,710 --> 00:23:34,919
that because the bottom line is they

665
00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:36,720
were a brilliant people within their own

666
00:23:40,549 --> 00:23:38,760
right and we don't need some you know

667
00:23:42,529 --> 00:23:40,559
paranormal or extraterrestrial

668
00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:42,539
explanation to explain their

669
00:23:47,390 --> 00:23:44,700
achievements and so I really I really

670
00:23:48,649 --> 00:23:47,400
valued that in your answer and um one of

671
00:23:50,810 --> 00:23:48,659
the things that they told me when I was

672
00:23:53,270 --> 00:23:50,820
at Toyota con was that the flat tops had

673
00:23:55,549 --> 00:23:53,280
to do with temples that used to be at

674
00:23:58,190 --> 00:23:55,559
the top and so wouldn't it be great if

675
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:58,200
we still had access to those and whatnot

676
00:24:02,330 --> 00:24:00,240
but I'm really curious what was your

677
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:02,340
favorite site so far that you were able

678
00:24:05,930 --> 00:24:03,840
to make it to

679
00:24:08,270 --> 00:24:05,940
I know that's a hard one good question

680
00:24:09,830 --> 00:24:08,280
you know I I actually think and it might

681
00:24:12,350 --> 00:24:09,840
be kind of you know I really need to

682
00:24:13,850 --> 00:24:12,360
pick teotu account but the fact that I

683
00:24:15,169 --> 00:24:13,860
got to go there Christmas morning I've

684
00:24:17,149 --> 00:24:15,179
been trying to go for like three weeks

685
00:24:18,590 --> 00:24:17,159
and it just wasn't happening and then it

686
00:24:20,270 --> 00:24:18,600
just so happened that I was there on

687
00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:20,280
Christmas morning so the crowds will

688
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:21,360
last

689
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:22,799
um there are several Gates that you can

690
00:24:26,210 --> 00:24:24,240
enter so this is a bit of tip for people

691
00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:26,220
if they get to go to table can I saw the

692
00:24:29,029 --> 00:24:28,140
Brian Foster is taking a group at the

693
00:24:30,409 --> 00:24:29,039
moment

694
00:24:32,990 --> 00:24:30,419
um there are multiple entrances around

695
00:24:34,549 --> 00:24:33,000
the site and everyone goes to Gateway

696
00:24:36,289 --> 00:24:34,559
you know if you just say take me to

697
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:36,299
table table can in a taxi which by the

698
00:24:39,770 --> 00:24:38,159
way is really cheap it's about 25 quid

699
00:24:41,870 --> 00:24:39,780
to get back and forth really cheap and

700
00:24:43,370 --> 00:24:41,880
it's about an hour each way as well uh

701
00:24:46,070 --> 00:24:43,380
can you imagine that in a taxi in the UK

702
00:24:47,690 --> 00:24:46,080
Vinnie that would be hundreds yeah

703
00:24:50,090 --> 00:24:47,700
um but

704
00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:50,100
so gate gate one is like right the front

705
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,260
that's where the tourists gather

706
00:24:56,390 --> 00:24:54,480
um whereas that's the complete opposite

707
00:24:57,950 --> 00:24:56,400
end of the Avenue of the Dead to the

708
00:24:59,810 --> 00:24:57,960
Temple of the sun and the Temple of the

709
00:25:02,270 --> 00:24:59,820
Moon which is you know the big ones that

710
00:25:04,370 --> 00:25:02,280
people want to go see so I I recommend

711
00:25:05,810 --> 00:25:04,380
go to gate two it looks like you're in

712
00:25:07,909 --> 00:25:05,820
the middle of nowhere you know you'll

713
00:25:10,430 --> 00:25:07,919
get kind of accosted by some really cute

714
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:10,440
stray dogs and stuff like that but as

715
00:25:16,010 --> 00:25:12,480
soon as you go in you're right at those

716
00:25:18,649 --> 00:25:16,020
pyramids so it takes about I would say

717
00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:18,659
40 minutes to to walk up from gate one

718
00:25:23,090 --> 00:25:21,059
whereas gate two you're right there so I

719
00:25:26,269 --> 00:25:23,100
full on had just an hour to myself

720
00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:26,279
amongst these huge ancient pyramids

721
00:25:30,409 --> 00:25:28,620
um and the the more ancient sites I see

722
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:30,419
the more I realize that actually I was

723
00:25:33,950 --> 00:25:32,159
really lucky you know these these places

724
00:25:35,890 --> 00:25:33,960
get filled with vendors and tourists

725
00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:35,900
very very quickly and it can kind of

726
00:25:41,510 --> 00:25:38,820
dampen the magic we'll say

727
00:25:42,830 --> 00:25:41,520
yep amazing now I mentioned when we

728
00:25:44,330 --> 00:25:42,840
spoke before you came on that you may

729
00:25:46,430 --> 00:25:44,340
have some images or photographs that you

730
00:25:49,970 --> 00:25:46,440
you can share with us at any point you

731
00:25:51,230 --> 00:25:49,980
want to do that go ahead oh sure but for

732
00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:51,240
now actually

733
00:25:55,430 --> 00:25:53,039
um I was just gonna say

734
00:25:58,669 --> 00:25:55,440
um basically I I put together a little

735
00:26:00,409 --> 00:25:58,679
album of the kind of Journey that I've

736
00:26:03,110 --> 00:26:00,419
been on so we can kind of discuss them

737
00:26:05,870 --> 00:26:03,120
one by one if you want and uh hello Sean

738
00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:05,880
Cahill beautiful good to see you good to

739
00:26:12,289 --> 00:26:09,260
see you soon uh so yeah

740
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:12,299
I'll just I'll bring this up and we can

741
00:26:16,610 --> 00:26:14,880
see Graham Hancock's series that he

742
00:26:18,350 --> 00:26:16,620
released towards the end of last year so

743
00:26:19,970 --> 00:26:18,360
if you can talk about that because I

744
00:26:21,289 --> 00:26:19,980
didn't know much about that one and and

745
00:26:23,390 --> 00:26:21,299
that'd be great tell me when you want me

746
00:26:25,010 --> 00:26:23,400
to bring it in and uh we'll we'll start

747
00:26:27,890 --> 00:26:25,020
looking at some pictures

748
00:26:28,930 --> 00:26:27,900
uh go for it should be ready right here

749
00:26:31,669 --> 00:26:28,940
we go

750
00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:31,679
so I'm going to start with Frida here

751
00:26:35,750 --> 00:26:34,140
Freda and I've only learned about Frieda

752
00:26:37,490 --> 00:26:35,760
about I want to say about a month after

753
00:26:39,590 --> 00:26:37,500
I saw this picture

754
00:26:42,409 --> 00:26:39,600
um the earthquakes in Turkey uh you know

755
00:26:44,269 --> 00:26:42,419
were tragic but

756
00:26:47,570 --> 00:26:44,279
there has been Aid sent from all over

757
00:26:49,970 --> 00:26:47,580
the world and Frida in this picture is

758
00:26:52,669 --> 00:26:49,980
one of the dogs that were sent that went

759
00:26:54,649 --> 00:26:52,679
looking for people and find survivors

760
00:26:56,690 --> 00:26:54,659
um and she actually retired and when she

761
00:26:58,730 --> 00:26:56,700
retired they they painted this big mural

762
00:26:59,990 --> 00:26:58,740
of her and I saw her and loved the mural

763
00:27:02,029 --> 00:27:00,000
and then weeks later I actually found

764
00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:02,039
out what the mural represented so I just

765
00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:04,020
wanted to pick up Frieda and say thank

766
00:27:07,310 --> 00:27:05,760
you Frida for for you know finding all

767
00:27:10,370 --> 00:27:07,320
those survivors and making them all the

768
00:27:11,390 --> 00:27:10,380
better place and I'm I'm sure that you

769
00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:11,400
know a bunch of people in the comments

770
00:27:14,750 --> 00:27:12,840
would be like is there an orb above her

771
00:27:17,570 --> 00:27:14,760
head maybe I don't know you'd have to

772
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:17,580
ask Freda can't speak

773
00:27:23,810 --> 00:27:21,480
yet can't speak yet with the amount of

774
00:27:28,430 --> 00:27:23,820
of photos you send me of dogs in Mexico

775
00:27:33,230 --> 00:27:30,370
I'd be very pleased if that could happen

776
00:27:36,470 --> 00:27:33,240
can I hold on can I make this

777
00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:36,480
yeah you guys still see that oh there it

778
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:38,340
is now there it is there cool I'll just

779
00:27:41,810 --> 00:27:40,080
stay there

780
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:41,820
um Okay so

781
00:27:48,289 --> 00:27:46,320
uh so this is Templar Mario

782
00:27:49,490 --> 00:27:48,299
um and Katie correct my pronunciation on

783
00:27:51,769 --> 00:27:49,500
any of this because I know you're more

784
00:27:54,710 --> 00:27:51,779
experienced in Spanish

785
00:27:56,450 --> 00:27:54,720
and there you go templo mayor

786
00:27:57,789 --> 00:27:56,460
um my most accomplished phrase in

787
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:57,799
Spanish by the way is

788
00:28:03,250 --> 00:28:00,240
fantasmus which means I ain't afraid no

789
00:28:06,169 --> 00:28:03,260
ghosts but it's not really useful anyway

790
00:28:08,690 --> 00:28:06,179
it might come up you never know

791
00:28:12,710 --> 00:28:08,700
maybe it seems to be a funny way of

792
00:28:15,890 --> 00:28:12,720
saying I don't speak Spanish so far so

793
00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:15,900
so yeah this is this is a templo mayor

794
00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:18,480
and this is smack bang in the center of

795
00:28:23,149 --> 00:28:20,760
Mexico City and what's amazing is not

796
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,159
not a lot of this actually remains uh

797
00:28:27,529 --> 00:28:25,200
but I'm just beneath street level here

798
00:28:31,130 --> 00:28:27,539
in the main Square where they celebrated

799
00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:31,140
New Year's and it's a huge area but this

800
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:32,520
is a really good example of like

801
00:28:35,630 --> 00:28:33,840
literally above me they were just

802
00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:35,640
clothes shops shoe shops you know a

803
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:37,020
normal city

804
00:28:40,190 --> 00:28:38,640
um but then you go underneath and you

805
00:28:41,870 --> 00:28:40,200
see these kind of structures so this is

806
00:28:44,210 --> 00:28:41,880
a little model of it

807
00:28:46,430 --> 00:28:44,220
um and this is kind of how it looks so

808
00:28:47,870 --> 00:28:46,440
the scaffold in there is on in the

809
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:47,880
background that's on the kind of

810
00:28:52,010 --> 00:28:49,679
cathedral in the main square that the

811
00:28:55,630 --> 00:28:52,020
you know the Spanish built

812
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:55,640
um and then this whole structure here is

813
00:29:02,210 --> 00:28:59,279
we're talking about 1325 it was rebuilt

814
00:29:04,669 --> 00:29:02,220
six times and expanded each time uh and

815
00:29:06,110 --> 00:29:04,679
it was destroyed by the Spanish in 1521

816
00:29:07,370 --> 00:29:06,120
and they replaced it with that Cathedral

817
00:29:08,810 --> 00:29:07,380
that that is just in the background

818
00:29:10,610 --> 00:29:08,820
there that they're struggling to keep up

819
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:10,620
evidently

820
00:29:14,930 --> 00:29:12,720
whereas this thing is five the test of

821
00:29:16,370 --> 00:29:14,940
time so to say the ancient structure is

822
00:29:20,090 --> 00:29:16,380
still that they're doing just fine

823
00:29:23,149 --> 00:29:20,100
though yeah absolutely absolutely

824
00:29:25,310 --> 00:29:23,159
so uh the the next bit

825
00:29:27,110 --> 00:29:25,320
um so I wanted to emphasize uh this I'm

826
00:29:29,330 --> 00:29:27,120
not sure if you guys can hear sound I I

827
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:29,340
assume that you could

828
00:29:36,289 --> 00:29:32,640
um but this picture here is a pretty

829
00:29:39,649 --> 00:29:36,299
famous picture of Mary uh Mary Magdalene

830
00:29:41,810 --> 00:29:39,659
and when I was here

831
00:29:44,570 --> 00:29:41,820
um I got to experience the the Festival

832
00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:44,580
of Our Lady of Guadalupe

833
00:29:48,289 --> 00:29:45,240
um

834
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:48,299
basically this was an event that

835
00:29:52,930 --> 00:29:50,640
happened on December 9th and December

836
00:29:57,230 --> 00:29:52,940
12th in 1531

837
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:57,240
where a gentleman named Juan Diego was

838
00:30:02,330 --> 00:30:00,240
visited by Mary basically an apparition

839
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:02,340
a marine Apparition we we speak about

840
00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:06,240
those with uh Our Lady of Fatima and we

841
00:30:09,830 --> 00:30:08,580
think of that as a kind of UFO event

842
00:30:11,690 --> 00:30:09,840
because there was said to be some

843
00:30:14,570 --> 00:30:11,700
dancing spheres in the sky that weren't

844
00:30:16,370 --> 00:30:14,580
the Sun so I walked into you know this

845
00:30:19,010 --> 00:30:16,380
celebration with kind of that that land

846
00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:19,020
Zone and it just it amazed me people

847
00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:21,960
came from all over the country carrying

848
00:30:25,909 --> 00:30:23,640
shrines like that picture you just saw

849
00:30:28,490 --> 00:30:25,919
to express their faith one family even

850
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:28,500
took terms crawling from their Village

851
00:30:32,550 --> 00:30:31,919
um and it took them 21 days 21 days can

852
00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:32,560
you imagine

853
00:30:35,690 --> 00:30:34,080
[Music]

854
00:30:37,389 --> 00:30:35,700
I was not gonna have to walk in two

855
00:30:39,710 --> 00:30:37,399
hours up to the shrine

856
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:39,720
so you can see here I'm just gonna press

857
00:30:44,269 --> 00:30:41,760
play here and um

858
00:30:46,250 --> 00:30:44,279
you can kind of see the the size of the

859
00:30:48,590 --> 00:30:46,260
crowd inside the cathedral and these

860
00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:48,600
Services just went on and on and on one

861
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:49,860
after the other

862
00:30:54,830 --> 00:30:52,320
um and people just got to join and it

863
00:30:58,130 --> 00:30:54,840
was really really incredible to just be

864
00:31:00,649 --> 00:30:58,140
there and be a part of it uh this was

865
00:31:02,330 --> 00:31:00,659
right at the top of the hill

866
00:31:04,190 --> 00:31:02,340
and you can kind of see this is the

867
00:31:06,289 --> 00:31:04,200
original Cathedral here

868
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:06,299
and you'll be able to see the view from

869
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:07,919
it as well

870
00:31:11,029 --> 00:31:09,480
oh wow

871
00:31:12,850 --> 00:31:11,039
that's beautiful

872
00:31:15,950 --> 00:31:12,860
you can see all the people coming up too

873
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,960
man I missed some stuff in Mexico

874
00:31:20,029 --> 00:31:18,480
I need to go back

875
00:31:21,649 --> 00:31:20,039
I'm trying to I don't think I can move

876
00:31:23,230 --> 00:31:21,659
the

877
00:31:26,210 --> 00:31:23,240
someone's messages

878
00:31:28,970 --> 00:31:26,220
playhead there someone's on the floor

879
00:31:31,310 --> 00:31:28,980
oh yeah just here

880
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:31,320
so people were collapsing because it was

881
00:31:35,810 --> 00:31:33,360
so hot um and they had to walk up this

882
00:31:38,090 --> 00:31:35,820
hill at the end and you know it was just

883
00:31:40,250 --> 00:31:38,100
it was crazy and the cathedral that I

884
00:31:41,450 --> 00:31:40,260
just showed you that we were inside uh

885
00:31:44,690 --> 00:31:41,460
can you see my mouse pointer actually

886
00:31:46,909 --> 00:31:44,700
yeah check if you can cool so that was

887
00:31:48,409 --> 00:31:46,919
inside this Cathedral here and then we

888
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:48,419
kind of had to walk up the hill to get

889
00:31:55,250 --> 00:31:50,880
to the shrine and people were coming up

890
00:31:57,889 --> 00:31:55,260
to the shrine to see uh where are we

891
00:32:00,830 --> 00:31:57,899
to see this basically

892
00:32:03,590 --> 00:32:00,840
which is if I pause it just here at the

893
00:32:05,330 --> 00:32:03,600
end this is the original picture that's

894
00:32:07,430 --> 00:32:05,340
right at the top so people would come up

895
00:32:09,110 --> 00:32:07,440
to kind of pay their respects and you

896
00:32:10,850 --> 00:32:09,120
know I'm not religious but I took a

897
00:32:13,730 --> 00:32:10,860
moment to kneel and you know be

898
00:32:15,110 --> 00:32:13,740
respectful this is something that a lot

899
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:15,120
of people have faith in and if you've

900
00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:17,279
heard the idea of you know a tulpa or

901
00:32:22,610 --> 00:32:19,919
anything like that then you know how

902
00:32:24,470 --> 00:32:22,620
kind of leaning into the positivity of

903
00:32:26,330 --> 00:32:24,480
ideas can can help manifest them in the

904
00:32:27,289 --> 00:32:26,340
world so I wanted to kind of play a part

905
00:32:29,510 --> 00:32:27,299
in that

906
00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:29,520
um but it was people from all ages you

907
00:32:33,169 --> 00:32:31,440
know children it wasn't just tourists as

908
00:32:35,149 --> 00:32:33,179
well uh

909
00:32:36,409 --> 00:32:35,159
just such a range you can see a child

910
00:32:38,029 --> 00:32:36,419
there as well

911
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:38,039
and there wasn't you know there wasn't a

912
00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:39,840
screaming kid in here at all it was it

913
00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:41,480
was really

914
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:44,700
how busy it was it was a really relaxed

915
00:32:57,710 --> 00:32:55,549
oh is this one gonna work

916
00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:57,720
oh do you want to show us some dogs

917
00:33:02,529 --> 00:33:00,059
I do yeah this this was a cheeky little

918
00:33:04,669 --> 00:33:02,539
dude on the on the way up to the

919
00:33:06,350 --> 00:33:04,679
back Shrine

920
00:33:07,850 --> 00:33:06,360
um there were a bunch of kind of sacred

921
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:07,860
temples that you could throw coins in

922
00:33:12,049 --> 00:33:10,500
and make a wish or you know a prayer and

923
00:33:14,210 --> 00:33:12,059
this dog was just chugging from said

924
00:33:16,730 --> 00:33:14,220
sacred Temple so I just thought it was

925
00:33:21,529 --> 00:33:18,350
chilling

926
00:33:24,590 --> 00:33:21,539
very he didn't fall in either very very

927
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:24,600
sweet wow and then so this was the view

928
00:33:29,090 --> 00:33:26,880
from the top and I mean this light is

929
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:29,100
incredible right yeah if I was so

930
00:33:33,769 --> 00:33:31,500
inclined that this would be a completely

931
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,779
religious experience had I had I crawl

932
00:33:38,090 --> 00:33:36,000
21 days to get here this site would have

933
00:33:40,490 --> 00:33:38,100
made the whole trip worth it I think

934
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,500
absolutely I don't know I I mean I no

935
00:33:44,389 --> 00:33:42,240
disrespect to people who have that much

936
00:33:46,060 --> 00:33:44,399
Faith but I think after 21 days I would

937
00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:46,070
just want to collapse and sleep

938
00:33:51,529 --> 00:33:49,200
[Laughter]

939
00:33:53,210 --> 00:33:51,539
yeah it's a lot isn't it especially in

940
00:33:55,130 --> 00:33:53,220
the heat and humidity yeah I don't think

941
00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:55,140
I've had a single day of less than about

942
00:34:01,970 --> 00:33:59,519
70 humidity so you know you just Sweat

943
00:34:04,190 --> 00:34:01,980
Right so every every hour is just chug

944
00:34:05,389 --> 00:34:04,200
about the water Chugga Powerade and you

945
00:34:08,329 --> 00:34:05,399
know keep going

946
00:34:11,389 --> 00:34:08,339
okay I imagine it's really exhausting

947
00:34:13,730 --> 00:34:11,399
so this was

948
00:34:16,070 --> 00:34:13,740
this right here is the the Temple of the

949
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:16,080
sun this is the the big temple in

950
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,300
teotiuokan uh which is about 25 miles

951
00:34:23,810 --> 00:34:20,639
Northwest of Mexico City oh North East

952
00:34:26,210 --> 00:34:23,820
sorry and this is the view from gate two

953
00:34:28,250 --> 00:34:26,220
so you can see it whereas it will be a

954
00:34:30,649 --> 00:34:28,260
speck in the distance from gate one you

955
00:34:32,389 --> 00:34:30,659
can if you want to pay money to to get a

956
00:34:35,329 --> 00:34:32,399
balloon flight over

957
00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:35,339
um before the sunrise happens and to be

958
00:34:39,169 --> 00:34:37,740
honest as cool as that sounded I was

959
00:34:41,149 --> 00:34:39,179
happy to walk in and I kind of wish

960
00:34:43,129 --> 00:34:41,159
people would stop you know taking modern

961
00:34:43,930 --> 00:34:43,139
technology over these and ruining my

962
00:34:47,089 --> 00:34:43,940
pictures

963
00:34:50,089 --> 00:34:47,099
Dan I hate this pyramid this pyramid

964
00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:50,099
broke three ligaments in my ankle whoa

965
00:34:53,389 --> 00:34:51,599
well you're allowed to walk up it

966
00:34:55,430 --> 00:34:53,399
weren't you so it's blocked off I did

967
00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:55,440
yeah I walked all the way to the top and

968
00:34:59,930 --> 00:34:57,720
got I did a cartwheel on the top of the

969
00:35:01,790 --> 00:34:59,940
pyramid it was pretty fun and I just

970
00:35:04,250 --> 00:35:01,800
want to emphasize to people you know

971
00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:04,260
it's really far away here so you're kind

972
00:35:09,109 --> 00:35:07,200
of losing the size but it was massive I

973
00:35:11,569 --> 00:35:09,119
I can't imagine how long it took you to

974
00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:11,579
get up there and it was so steep as well

975
00:35:16,130 --> 00:35:14,160
I remember thinking these aren't steps

976
00:35:19,069 --> 00:35:16,140
that are used every single day because

977
00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:19,079
it's just there's so much effort to get

978
00:35:23,270 --> 00:35:21,240
up them and no and they're not imagine

979
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:23,280
they're not OSHA compliant either right

980
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:24,890
no they're not

981
00:35:33,650 --> 00:35:32,390
so he is he is a kind of scale here so

982
00:35:35,390 --> 00:35:33,660
you can kind of see the temple of the

983
00:35:36,950 --> 00:35:35,400
moon is to my left

984
00:35:38,450 --> 00:35:36,960
um these temples we were allowed to go

985
00:35:39,890 --> 00:35:38,460
by the way

986
00:35:42,109 --> 00:35:39,900
um some of them are blocked off some of

987
00:35:44,030 --> 00:35:42,119
them aren't but since covet happened the

988
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:44,040
they seem to be you know just looking

989
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,260
after their sights a bit more which I I

990
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:48,240
find really encouraging

991
00:35:51,410 --> 00:35:49,920
um no vendors are allowed up here you

992
00:35:54,230 --> 00:35:51,420
can see that there's just no people

993
00:35:55,190 --> 00:35:54,240
maybe some down here starting to trickle

994
00:35:57,170 --> 00:35:55,200
up

995
00:35:58,609 --> 00:35:57,180
um but this is why I recommend you go

996
00:36:01,550 --> 00:35:58,619
early and you get from that gate too

997
00:36:03,950 --> 00:36:01,560
just because you know you get to sit and

998
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,960
just take in this magical place with

999
00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:05,760
with no kind of you know chattering

1000
00:36:08,990 --> 00:36:07,560
around you and things like that

1001
00:36:10,250 --> 00:36:09,000
um so Katie I guess when you were at the

1002
00:36:11,690 --> 00:36:10,260
top you would have been a tiny little

1003
00:36:14,349 --> 00:36:11,700
speck up there you probably wouldn't be

1004
00:36:16,140 --> 00:36:14,359
nice yeah I couldn't have even seen me

1005
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:16,150
absolutely insane

1006
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:17,520
[Music]

1007
00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:20,400
so here's a closer photo of it

1008
00:36:22,730 --> 00:36:21,480
um it would have been cool to go up

1009
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:22,740
don't get me wrong

1010
00:36:26,210 --> 00:36:24,000
um but

1011
00:36:27,770 --> 00:36:26,220
yeah it certainly would have been a lot

1012
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:27,780
of work

1013
00:36:32,270 --> 00:36:30,000
what's the altitude

1014
00:36:34,069 --> 00:36:32,280
doesn't make sense a set above sea level

1015
00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:34,079
naturally anyway

1016
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:36,119
Mexico City

1017
00:36:40,670 --> 00:36:38,640
okay yeah

1018
00:36:42,710 --> 00:36:40,680
um the the actual area of the whole

1019
00:36:45,290 --> 00:36:42,720
place is about I think it's about 83

1020
00:36:46,849 --> 00:36:45,300
square kilometers I'm not sure exactly

1021
00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:46,859
how high it is but if you give me a

1022
00:36:52,130 --> 00:36:49,560
second I can totally find out with the

1023
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:52,140
wonders of the modern internet

1024
00:36:56,450 --> 00:36:54,720
what did we do before that you just want

1025
00:36:57,410 --> 00:36:56,460
to know what's the elevation of Mexico

1026
00:37:00,349 --> 00:36:57,420
City

1027
00:37:03,069 --> 00:37:00,359
I know we kind of need a chat GPT would

1028
00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:03,079
just bring it up for us right

1029
00:37:12,829 --> 00:37:06,180
if anyone in the comments knows now's

1030
00:37:16,370 --> 00:37:14,750
just a reminder everyone if you do have

1031
00:37:18,950 --> 00:37:16,380
any questions please pop them in capital

1032
00:37:21,950 --> 00:37:18,960
letters and we will uh try our best to

1033
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:21,960
ask them oh Swiss Army Uber asks if

1034
00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,240
that's the world's biggest pyramid

1035
00:37:28,609 --> 00:37:26,460
it is not but you are going to see the

1036
00:37:31,490 --> 00:37:28,619
world's biggest pyramid in a second that

1037
00:37:33,770 --> 00:37:31,500
is actually bigger by volume than those

1038
00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:33,780
in Egypt as well and I'll tell you

1039
00:37:36,650 --> 00:37:35,640
exactly why

1040
00:37:37,970 --> 00:37:36,660
um so

1041
00:37:39,410 --> 00:37:37,980
go on

1042
00:37:41,270 --> 00:37:39,420
I was just going to say the Pyramid of

1043
00:37:43,430 --> 00:37:41,280
the sun is actually the third biggest in

1044
00:37:46,550 --> 00:37:43,440
the world oh nice

1045
00:37:49,310 --> 00:37:46,560
um so this rises above six about 66

1046
00:37:50,930 --> 00:37:49,320
meters which is 216 feet depending on

1047
00:37:53,690 --> 00:37:50,940
where you are

1048
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:53,700
um and its base is 220 by 230 meters so

1049
00:38:03,710 --> 00:37:59,870
that's cool we got um warlock here says

1050
00:38:05,510 --> 00:38:03,720
7 300. so I assume that is meters above

1051
00:38:06,290 --> 00:38:05,520
sea level

1052
00:38:12,050 --> 00:38:06,300
yeah

1053
00:38:14,210 --> 00:38:12,060
so much so so this here is when you go

1054
00:38:15,829 --> 00:38:14,220
into the museum on site uh they have

1055
00:38:17,930 --> 00:38:15,839
these little models that kind of show

1056
00:38:19,849 --> 00:38:17,940
you the layout of how it would have been

1057
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:19,859
so I thought I'd include this just to

1058
00:38:23,810 --> 00:38:21,240
show people what you're seeing here

1059
00:38:25,550 --> 00:38:23,820
isn't what you've seen so far this is a

1060
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:25,560
little Temple that's dedicated to they

1061
00:38:29,089 --> 00:38:27,780
think Quetzalcoatl which I might be

1062
00:38:30,829 --> 00:38:29,099
saying

1063
00:38:33,530 --> 00:38:30,839
be close

1064
00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:33,540
but if I play it you kind of see the

1065
00:38:43,849 --> 00:38:41,690
so this is the Avenue of the Dead where

1066
00:38:45,650 --> 00:38:43,859
the tourists have to walk gate two was

1067
00:38:47,270 --> 00:38:45,660
about by here so I get to walk straight

1068
00:38:51,410 --> 00:38:47,280
across there

1069
00:38:52,970 --> 00:38:51,420
that's crazy you can see the size right

1070
00:38:55,310 --> 00:38:52,980
um and how many people this would have

1071
00:38:57,770 --> 00:38:55,320
housed I think I think it was about I

1072
00:38:59,870 --> 00:38:57,780
want to say about a quarter of a million

1073
00:39:01,310 --> 00:38:59,880
um at its peak but you know we keep

1074
00:39:03,170 --> 00:39:01,320
discovering more so it could be bigger

1075
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,180
this is just kind of the the political

1076
00:39:06,650 --> 00:39:05,040
center of the city they think you know

1077
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,660
where the organization was done and

1078
00:39:11,150 --> 00:39:08,400
where the worship happened and what the

1079
00:39:13,430 --> 00:39:11,160
sacrifice happened and things like that

1080
00:39:15,710 --> 00:39:13,440
the really cool thing is uh in fact I'm

1081
00:39:18,530 --> 00:39:15,720
just gonna go back here so in this

1082
00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:18,540
Square here these were designed to kind

1083
00:39:22,970 --> 00:39:21,300
of carry sound so in in many

1084
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:22,980
documentaries you'll kind of see people

1085
00:39:27,050 --> 00:39:24,960
clapping in these open squares just to

1086
00:39:28,490 --> 00:39:27,060
hear how the sound reverberates but

1087
00:39:29,990 --> 00:39:28,500
there was a little platform in the

1088
00:39:31,430 --> 00:39:30,000
middle here that honestly you you could

1089
00:39:33,950 --> 00:39:31,440
speak at almost normal volume and it

1090
00:39:36,589 --> 00:39:33,960
would carry to the whole Square uh so

1091
00:39:37,910 --> 00:39:36,599
these areas were were just used for

1092
00:39:39,950 --> 00:39:37,920
those purposes you know you'd have

1093
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:39,960
people sat here from different groups of

1094
00:39:44,870 --> 00:39:42,660
neighboring kind of cities tribes and

1095
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,880
this would be a big political debate

1096
00:39:48,109 --> 00:39:46,320
kind of think like the houses of

1097
00:39:49,550 --> 00:39:48,119
Parliament but you know with with

1098
00:39:51,290 --> 00:39:49,560
sacrifice which

1099
00:39:53,410 --> 00:39:51,300
I think the house of parliament might be

1100
00:39:55,849 --> 00:39:53,420
improved by to be honest

1101
00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:55,859
also a great place for stand-up comedy

1102
00:40:03,770 --> 00:39:59,579
yeah or maybe a talk about you about UAP

1103
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:03,780
so yeah absolutely and I should say as

1104
00:40:07,310 --> 00:40:05,160
well that

1105
00:40:09,050 --> 00:40:07,320
um there were there were a whole bunch

1106
00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:09,060
of kind of mind stories and things like

1107
00:40:13,310 --> 00:40:11,160
that going back way supposedly at the

1108
00:40:15,890 --> 00:40:13,320
final battle uh between you know some of

1109
00:40:17,810 --> 00:40:15,900
the Conquistadors and the minds for the

1110
00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:17,820
seat of power in the region

1111
00:40:20,569 --> 00:40:19,500
um supposedly balls of light came out of

1112
00:40:22,550 --> 00:40:20,579
the water and hovered over the

1113
00:40:24,829 --> 00:40:22,560
battlefield and then shot off uh there's

1114
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:24,839
not really much more said than that but

1115
00:40:29,329 --> 00:40:27,060
it's just very matter of fact

1116
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:29,339
um so yeah that that was a very like

1117
00:40:32,870 --> 00:40:31,200
whoa that was a I mean that was a UFO if

1118
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:32,880
that happened now we're talking Roman

1119
00:40:39,170 --> 00:40:35,280
Shields basically but in in a different

1120
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:39,180
cultures lens nice wow so this picture I

1121
00:40:44,089 --> 00:40:40,800
included because

1122
00:40:45,710 --> 00:40:44,099
I mean it was huge and this is kind of

1123
00:40:47,510 --> 00:40:45,720
one of the symbols that pop up is The

1124
00:40:49,069 --> 00:40:47,520
Feathered Serpent or the cosmic serpent

1125
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,079
which kind of plays back into you know

1126
00:40:53,329 --> 00:40:51,119
what the guy taught me here about

1127
00:40:55,849 --> 00:40:53,339
you know how we come from the cosmos and

1128
00:40:57,530 --> 00:40:55,859
are all parts of a whole and the

1129
00:40:59,329 --> 00:40:57,540
feathers around the serpent here I

1130
00:41:01,250 --> 00:40:59,339
actually have a serpent tattoo and I've

1131
00:41:03,170 --> 00:41:01,260
included a few pictures in this but

1132
00:41:05,390 --> 00:41:03,180
you'll see how I've kind of Incorporated

1133
00:41:07,250 --> 00:41:05,400
these things as I find them um to try

1134
00:41:09,109 --> 00:41:07,260
and kind of carry them with me uh

1135
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:09,119
because I just I love the story and I

1136
00:41:12,349 --> 00:41:10,680
love people asking and I get to kind of

1137
00:41:14,690 --> 00:41:12,359
tell them about the people who made

1138
00:41:15,410 --> 00:41:14,700
these symbols and and open their minds a

1139
00:41:17,270 --> 00:41:15,420
little bit

1140
00:41:19,730 --> 00:41:17,280
[Music]

1141
00:41:24,170 --> 00:41:19,740
so this is the Temple of Quetzalcoatl

1142
00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:24,180
and you can see these heads here and the

1143
00:41:30,109 --> 00:41:26,940
scale of it it is enormous and the

1144
00:41:32,450 --> 00:41:30,119
intricacy is oh I can zoom

1145
00:41:35,210 --> 00:41:32,460
oh my god wow it's handy so you can see

1146
00:41:36,950 --> 00:41:35,220
how intricate it is right

1147
00:41:39,410 --> 00:41:36,960
um this kind of stuff you know you can

1148
00:41:41,870 --> 00:41:39,420
do it by hand maybe not with carpet

1149
00:41:43,370 --> 00:41:41,880
chisels because they're soft but you

1150
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:43,380
know it's perfectly achievable by

1151
00:41:47,870 --> 00:41:46,079
someone with patience and skill uh in

1152
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:47,880
the same way as a you know a watchmaker

1153
00:41:51,170 --> 00:41:49,680
is incredible to us these days I

1154
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:51,180
couldn't even fathom making a watch but

1155
00:41:55,970 --> 00:41:53,760
these people were just incredibly good

1156
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:55,980
at work in this Stone basically well

1157
00:41:59,630 --> 00:41:57,839
what's really amazing too about all of

1158
00:42:01,250 --> 00:41:59,640
these sites in particular

1159
00:42:02,870 --> 00:42:01,260
um is that you know they didn't look

1160
00:42:05,089 --> 00:42:02,880
like this at their height they were

1161
00:42:08,089 --> 00:42:05,099
covered in Limestone and cut and painted

1162
00:42:10,609 --> 00:42:08,099
and all these colorful motifs so you

1163
00:42:13,490 --> 00:42:10,619
know we're so awestruck by them today

1164
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:13,500
imagine seeing them when they were in an

1165
00:42:19,550 --> 00:42:16,380
operation I'm sure it was just a Marvel

1166
00:42:21,650 --> 00:42:19,560
yeah absolutely and and just to add as

1167
00:42:23,390 --> 00:42:21,660
well the same is true of or we found the

1168
00:42:25,010 --> 00:42:23,400
same is true of uh you know we think of

1169
00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:25,020
like Roman marble statues and things

1170
00:42:28,490 --> 00:42:27,119
like that we thought of those as plain

1171
00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:28,500
but we've since found that actually they

1172
00:42:31,010 --> 00:42:29,940
were colored and they would have looked

1173
00:42:32,810 --> 00:42:31,020
totally different

1174
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:32,820
um you know it's a paradigm shift

1175
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:34,560
equivalent to realizing the dinosaurs

1176
00:42:38,810 --> 00:42:37,440
had feathers you know yeah

1177
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:38,820
I think people still can't get their

1178
00:42:42,770 --> 00:42:41,040
heads around that

1179
00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:42,780
but I was pleased to see when I visited

1180
00:42:46,010 --> 00:42:44,339
an exhibition in the center of the the

1181
00:42:47,870 --> 00:42:46,020
Creator for the meteor that wiped them

1182
00:42:49,849 --> 00:42:47,880
out that they've updated that to include

1183
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,859
the feathers uh which was kind of cool

1184
00:42:53,329 --> 00:42:51,599
and they managed to still make them look

1185
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:53,339
menacing too

1186
00:42:59,150 --> 00:42:57,119
scary birds scary birds scary big birds

1187
00:43:01,790 --> 00:42:59,160
so this is Cholula so I'm actually

1188
00:43:03,710 --> 00:43:01,800
standing up on one of the levels of the

1189
00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:03,720
Pyramid of Cholula now

1190
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,060
um which is the one that's the the

1191
00:43:10,910 --> 00:43:08,640
pyramid that is the world's biggest by

1192
00:43:12,349 --> 00:43:10,920
volume uh Cholula means place of Refuge

1193
00:43:14,450 --> 00:43:12,359
so they think that it was kind of a

1194
00:43:17,329 --> 00:43:14,460
place in the region that when a lot of

1195
00:43:20,089 --> 00:43:17,339
other kind of civilizations collapse

1196
00:43:21,950 --> 00:43:20,099
around them everyone came here to kind

1197
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:21,960
of you know build together they think

1198
00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:24,480
about 100 000 people lived here but

1199
00:43:27,950 --> 00:43:26,400
again that's being expanded as they find

1200
00:43:29,569 --> 00:43:27,960
more sites

1201
00:43:32,809 --> 00:43:29,579
um and and they think that maybe the

1202
00:43:35,450 --> 00:43:32,819
movement was caused by uh this guy right

1203
00:43:36,829 --> 00:43:35,460
here well not to zoom in on my face I

1204
00:43:39,770 --> 00:43:36,839
did nothing

1205
00:43:44,329 --> 00:43:39,780
um but but this and I'm gonna try and

1206
00:43:46,190 --> 00:43:44,339
say the name Popo I think it is

1207
00:43:48,890 --> 00:43:46,200
um but this is a huge volcano that's

1208
00:43:51,170 --> 00:43:48,900
still active today and while I was there

1209
00:43:53,150 --> 00:43:51,180
there was actually a an article in the

1210
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:53,160
Daily Mail where a couple had filmed a

1211
00:43:58,910 --> 00:43:55,920
video uh of what they thought was a UFO

1212
00:44:01,010 --> 00:43:58,920
over the volcano and and it's kind of

1213
00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:01,020
what you call a hot spot and I didn't

1214
00:44:05,270 --> 00:44:03,180
realize that until getting here

1215
00:44:07,670 --> 00:44:05,280
it is about I want to say five and a

1216
00:44:11,690 --> 00:44:07,680
half thousand meters High

1217
00:44:15,109 --> 00:44:11,700
um so it's fairly big and hopefully it's

1218
00:44:17,210 --> 00:44:15,119
the next picture here oh no so basically

1219
00:44:19,130 --> 00:44:17,220
while I was there I saw kind of a black

1220
00:44:20,630 --> 00:44:19,140
Speck going through the sky I think it

1221
00:44:23,450 --> 00:44:20,640
was a balloon but I'll show the video

1222
00:44:25,190 --> 00:44:23,460
anyway and folk can kind of you know see

1223
00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:25,200
but there were a lot of balloons in the

1224
00:44:28,730 --> 00:44:27,119
town a lot of celebrations happening so

1225
00:44:30,650 --> 00:44:28,740
when people say they see things in the

1226
00:44:32,750 --> 00:44:30,660
sky around there I would probably you

1227
00:44:35,270 --> 00:44:32,760
know probably lean towards prosaic but

1228
00:44:38,329 --> 00:44:35,280
we do know that there are connections

1229
00:44:40,370 --> 00:44:38,339
between UAP volcanoes and Volcanic uh

1230
00:44:43,370 --> 00:44:40,380
volcanic lava tubes and things like that

1231
00:44:45,050 --> 00:44:43,380
or just lava tubes and Dan can for

1232
00:44:46,190 --> 00:44:45,060
people who are unfamiliar with Cholula

1233
00:44:47,450 --> 00:44:46,200
can you explain what you're looking at

1234
00:44:51,410 --> 00:44:47,460
here because it kind of looks like a

1235
00:44:53,510 --> 00:44:51,420
hill right yeah absolutely so at the

1236
00:44:55,430 --> 00:44:53,520
bottom structure here we've kind of got

1237
00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:55,440
the the original natural structure but

1238
00:45:00,050 --> 00:44:56,880
not natural but the original pyramid

1239
00:45:01,970 --> 00:45:00,060
structure and then right on top is a

1240
00:45:05,050 --> 00:45:01,980
church that the Spanish built to kind of

1241
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,060
you know assert power in the region

1242
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:07,920
this pyramid as you look at on the

1243
00:45:14,750 --> 00:45:08,960
ground

1244
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,760
they've kind of found the edges uh and

1245
00:45:18,530 --> 00:45:16,560
extrapolated but it was built up in

1246
00:45:21,950 --> 00:45:18,540
multiple stages I think it was four four

1247
00:45:24,890 --> 00:45:21,960
or so stages since the third century

1248
00:45:27,470 --> 00:45:24,900
um and stands I think it's about 25

1249
00:45:30,470 --> 00:45:27,480
meters above the plane which is shorter

1250
00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:30,480
than the Pyramid of Giza but the bottom

1251
00:45:35,990 --> 00:45:33,180
is actually much wider it's 300 by 315

1252
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:36,000
meters whereas the Great Pyramid in

1253
00:45:40,609 --> 00:45:38,579
Egypt is 230 by 230. so that one's nice

1254
00:45:43,430 --> 00:45:40,619
and square and Tall this one's a little

1255
00:45:45,109 --> 00:45:43,440
bit stubby but it's much wider

1256
00:45:46,430 --> 00:45:45,119
um so that was incredible to see one of

1257
00:45:47,990 --> 00:45:46,440
my favorite things about going to this

1258
00:45:51,109 --> 00:45:48,000
place is when I got to the church at the

1259
00:45:52,849 --> 00:45:51,119
top they gave me a a bag of holy water

1260
00:45:55,270 --> 00:45:52,859
which I just carried around for a little

1261
00:45:58,370 --> 00:45:55,280
while like what do I do with this

1262
00:46:01,390 --> 00:45:58,380
bag of holy water

1263
00:46:06,290 --> 00:46:01,400
give it to a dog to drink apparently

1264
00:46:10,190 --> 00:46:08,210
so this is kind of where like the the

1265
00:46:12,050 --> 00:46:10,200
churches in the hill is quite far behind

1266
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,060
this sign but these signs they they have

1267
00:46:17,210 --> 00:46:15,359
them all over Mexico uh and yeah the

1268
00:46:18,890 --> 00:46:17,220
little tourist kind of spots where you

1269
00:46:20,210 --> 00:46:18,900
can kind of see the colors and and I

1270
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:20,220
love going to see them because all the

1271
00:46:23,809 --> 00:46:21,839
patterns on the signs of reflective of

1272
00:46:25,370 --> 00:46:23,819
the local are as opposed to Mexico in

1273
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:25,380
general so they change a lot depending

1274
00:46:29,329 --> 00:46:27,660
on where you go so you can kind of get a

1275
00:46:30,950 --> 00:46:29,339
good feel for the art style when you're

1276
00:46:34,010 --> 00:46:30,960
there

1277
00:46:36,050 --> 00:46:34,020
so this is one of the intact

1278
00:46:37,550 --> 00:46:36,060
um parts of the pyramid and you know you

1279
00:46:39,530 --> 00:46:37,560
can climb up this and you'll see the

1280
00:46:41,750 --> 00:46:39,540
view from the top in a second uh the

1281
00:46:43,430 --> 00:46:41,760
church is much higher above it but this

1282
00:46:45,650 --> 00:46:43,440
is kind of how it all would have looked

1283
00:46:47,930 --> 00:46:45,660
uh from the bottom

1284
00:46:51,349 --> 00:46:47,940
levels just keep going up all the way to

1285
00:46:56,450 --> 00:46:53,450
so this here is the video of the theme

1286
00:46:59,630 --> 00:46:56,460
so I'll just

1287
00:47:00,890 --> 00:46:59,640
I'll just find it here for you there you

1288
00:47:04,609 --> 00:47:00,900
go yeah

1289
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:06,530
so to my eyes this looked like a

1290
00:47:10,370 --> 00:47:08,160
tumbling balloon I've seen people

1291
00:47:12,950 --> 00:47:10,380
disagree but you know I feel like my

1292
00:47:15,349 --> 00:47:12,960
eyes are pretty bad on the camera here

1293
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:15,359
yeah but you know it could be high and

1294
00:47:20,089 --> 00:47:17,760
big or it's it's hard to kind of pin

1295
00:47:22,490 --> 00:47:20,099
down but it's a good example I think of

1296
00:47:24,430 --> 00:47:22,500
why people see these things and kind of

1297
00:47:26,690 --> 00:47:24,440
go I really don't know what that is yeah

1298
00:47:28,430 --> 00:47:26,700
there are no observables there I would

1299
00:47:29,630 --> 00:47:28,440
say

1300
00:47:32,210 --> 00:47:29,640
um but

1301
00:47:33,770 --> 00:47:32,220
it does kind of

1302
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:33,780
dip

1303
00:47:44,450 --> 00:47:36,480
uh in a second and disappear

1304
00:47:48,770 --> 00:47:45,950
yeah I just went through the cloud cover

1305
00:47:50,569 --> 00:47:48,780
looks like yeah

1306
00:47:52,849 --> 00:47:50,579
so it just kind of disappears Now by

1307
00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:52,859
here pretty cool either way yeah yeah

1308
00:48:00,349 --> 00:47:57,950
just happened to catch that did you see

1309
00:48:01,849 --> 00:48:00,359
it and then start filming or did it was

1310
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:01,859
it just kind of a

1311
00:48:06,770 --> 00:48:04,500
an artifact of already filming around

1312
00:48:08,210 --> 00:48:06,780
so I was filming around and then I saw

1313
00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:08,220
it uh so there's a there's a little bit

1314
00:48:11,329 --> 00:48:09,480
at the beginning of this video where I'm

1315
00:48:13,609 --> 00:48:11,339
just like you know you can kind of see

1316
00:48:15,650 --> 00:48:13,619
it drifting in here

1317
00:48:17,450 --> 00:48:15,660
um but yeah I was just I was filming the

1318
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,460
volcano and I saw it so I zoomed in and

1319
00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:19,200
just tracked it so I thought that's

1320
00:48:21,950 --> 00:48:20,339
quite cool

1321
00:48:24,109 --> 00:48:21,960
could you feel the wind on you could you

1322
00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:24,119
check to see if that was just you know

1323
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:26,460
you could

1324
00:48:33,770 --> 00:48:31,790
yeah exactly and and

1325
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:33,780
you know I'm looking upwards towards the

1326
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:36,480
volcano so this thing could be higher

1327
00:48:40,430 --> 00:48:38,160
um so it's probably going to be quite

1328
00:48:42,710 --> 00:48:40,440
windy but I mean depending on how in

1329
00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:42,720
front of the volcano it is

1330
00:48:46,210 --> 00:48:44,520
you can kind of see the direction the

1331
00:48:50,329 --> 00:48:46,220
wind's blow in the smoke here

1332
00:48:52,670 --> 00:48:50,339
and the opposite direction yeah right so

1333
00:48:54,290 --> 00:48:52,680
you could argue depending on where it is

1334
00:48:56,329 --> 00:48:54,300
between me and the volcano it depends on

1335
00:48:58,550 --> 00:48:56,339
the on the wind direction there so yeah

1336
00:49:01,670 --> 00:48:58,560
it's intriguing it was fun if it's a

1337
00:49:03,890 --> 00:49:01,680
bird it's a fast bird so yes interesting

1338
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,900
there too

1339
00:49:07,790 --> 00:49:05,760
this was kind of a special moment for me

1340
00:49:09,770 --> 00:49:07,800
so I wanted to share it um I had one of

1341
00:49:12,050 --> 00:49:09,780
those you know apps on my phone

1342
00:49:13,970 --> 00:49:12,060
um and I could see basically as the sun

1343
00:49:17,630 --> 00:49:13,980
was going down all of the planets were

1344
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:17,640
aligned right above me uh

1345
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:26,750
see Uranus there wow

1346
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:28,910
Gemini in the bush

1347
00:49:33,710 --> 00:49:31,380
incredible wow that's incredible yeah

1348
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,720
wow they would just be behind this

1349
00:49:37,250 --> 00:49:35,520
church but yeah that was something you

1350
00:49:38,930 --> 00:49:37,260
were aware of or did you just suddenly

1351
00:49:40,370 --> 00:49:38,940
see it

1352
00:49:41,750 --> 00:49:40,380
um well I heard that week that there was

1353
00:49:43,730 --> 00:49:41,760
kind of like a conjunction and things

1354
00:49:45,710 --> 00:49:43,740
like that happening but I didn't think

1355
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:45,720
that I would be able to witness it just

1356
00:49:50,030 --> 00:49:48,180
straight up like this just because I had

1357
00:49:51,710 --> 00:49:50,040
this massive swath of Open Sky it just

1358
00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:51,720
made it really easy to see

1359
00:49:55,010 --> 00:49:53,460
and what's crazy to me is no one was

1360
00:49:56,990 --> 00:49:55,020
looking up as well you know I think I

1361
00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:57,000
was the only one kind of you know in ore

1362
00:50:00,170 --> 00:49:58,440
of the the universe at this point

1363
00:50:01,250 --> 00:50:00,180
everyone else was kind of you know they

1364
00:50:03,290 --> 00:50:01,260
were looking at the nice views of the

1365
00:50:05,390 --> 00:50:03,300
city but just to say not many people

1366
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:05,400
look up the more people look up the more

1367
00:50:09,470 --> 00:50:06,839
they kind of tend to see weird things in

1368
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:09,480
the sky so look at more people yeah hey

1369
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:11,040
Dan what's the name of that app you're

1370
00:50:14,270 --> 00:50:12,960
using I'm curious and so are some some

1371
00:50:16,370 --> 00:50:14,280
Watchers

1372
00:50:18,109 --> 00:50:16,380
yeah absolutely so

1373
00:50:20,210 --> 00:50:18,119
um I have a few kind of star apps but

1374
00:50:22,130 --> 00:50:20,220
this one is called sky guide

1375
00:50:24,050 --> 00:50:22,140
um really nice and easy Graphics are

1376
00:50:26,329 --> 00:50:24,060
nice good good interface and things like

1377
00:50:28,970 --> 00:50:26,339
that and what's great is you you can

1378
00:50:31,309 --> 00:50:28,980
kind of go back and forth so say you saw

1379
00:50:33,050 --> 00:50:31,319
something two nights ago uh you can go

1380
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:33,060
back two nights ago and check what was

1381
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:35,579
there oh that's nice okay

1382
00:50:39,710 --> 00:50:38,160
yeah I had I had a moment a couple weeks

1383
00:50:42,230 --> 00:50:39,720
ago where I thought I saw a UFO and it

1384
00:50:44,390 --> 00:50:42,240
was definitely a planet so no

1385
00:50:45,770 --> 00:50:44,400
it's not really useful to have well they

1386
00:50:47,450 --> 00:50:45,780
get tricky sometimes right because you

1387
00:50:48,890 --> 00:50:47,460
get like a little kind of flickering

1388
00:50:50,450 --> 00:50:48,900
because of the atmosphere and sometimes

1389
00:50:51,710 --> 00:50:50,460
they're brighter than you think and you

1390
00:50:52,910 --> 00:50:51,720
know they're definitely been times where

1391
00:50:54,710 --> 00:50:52,920
I've had to check as well because I'm

1392
00:50:56,329 --> 00:50:54,720
just like wow you know that's super

1393
00:50:58,309 --> 00:50:56,339
bright if it's a planet

1394
00:51:00,349 --> 00:50:58,319
um but yeah it's worth just checking

1395
00:51:01,609 --> 00:51:00,359
because you can go back this uh this I

1396
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:01,619
thought was a cool image just because

1397
00:51:05,990 --> 00:51:03,119
the volcano is kind of spitting out

1398
00:51:07,609 --> 00:51:06,000
smoke and just touching up here Venus

1399
00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:07,619
um oh yeah so I thought that was that

1400
00:51:12,829 --> 00:51:10,319
was quite cool uh to see is a bit of a

1401
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:12,839
space nerd you're thinking about all the

1402
00:51:17,930 --> 00:51:14,760
processes that allowed this to happen

1403
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:17,940
that then allowed this to happen and

1404
00:51:21,470 --> 00:51:19,680
then

1405
00:51:24,290 --> 00:51:21,480
to account the process

1406
00:51:27,890 --> 00:51:24,300
is to

1407
00:51:30,130 --> 00:51:27,900
oh we're losing you

1408
00:51:33,470 --> 00:51:30,140
come on Mexico

1409
00:51:36,410 --> 00:51:33,480
he's back he's back for a second

1410
00:51:37,549 --> 00:51:36,420
on my back cool yeah it's all good um I

1411
00:51:38,990 --> 00:51:37,559
just want to ask this question here from

1412
00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:39,000
Jalen it's a really good question it

1413
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:40,680
says uh are there any examples of

1414
00:51:44,510 --> 00:51:42,540
Precision Engineering unexpected during

1415
00:51:45,890 --> 00:51:44,520
that period of time and any astronomical

1416
00:51:50,750 --> 00:51:45,900
alignments

1417
00:51:53,089 --> 00:51:50,760
of like mimicking the Stars like we talk

1418
00:51:54,890 --> 00:51:53,099
about Egypt which I'm just going to

1419
00:51:57,530 --> 00:51:54,900
touch on this all those three pyramids

1420
00:51:59,030 --> 00:51:57,540
were built really far apart so no one

1421
00:52:00,109 --> 00:51:59,040
person sat down and said yeah we're

1422
00:52:01,970 --> 00:52:00,119
going to make these reflect for Ryan

1423
00:52:04,190 --> 00:52:01,980
what might have happened is the person

1424
00:52:05,690 --> 00:52:04,200
that made the final pyramid said oh if I

1425
00:52:07,490 --> 00:52:05,700
put that here it kind of reflects the

1426
00:52:09,530 --> 00:52:07,500
heavens and that kind of works with the

1427
00:52:11,450 --> 00:52:09,540
As Above So Below stuff

1428
00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:11,460
um but no one you know planned for the

1429
00:52:16,609 --> 00:52:13,980
pyramids to to match Orion uh it just

1430
00:52:19,130 --> 00:52:16,619
would have been later on but absolutely

1431
00:52:21,290 --> 00:52:19,140
uh you know these peoples definitely

1432
00:52:22,609 --> 00:52:21,300
appreciated astronomy uh which you'll

1433
00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:22,619
see in a second when we get to Mount

1434
00:52:27,710 --> 00:52:25,380
Alban and they definitely kind of

1435
00:52:29,390 --> 00:52:27,720
orientated things to the cardinal points

1436
00:52:30,650 --> 00:52:29,400
of the compass be in north east south

1437
00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:30,660
west

1438
00:52:34,970 --> 00:52:32,700
um there are a couple of platforms I

1439
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:34,980
think I put the video in here uh where I

1440
00:52:38,870 --> 00:52:37,440
was able to demonstrate that as well

1441
00:52:41,930 --> 00:52:38,880
nice

1442
00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:41,940
so this I wanted to include because in

1443
00:52:46,190 --> 00:52:44,640
Puebla uh which was not far from Cholula

1444
00:52:48,829 --> 00:52:46,200
which where we just were

1445
00:52:51,410 --> 00:52:48,839
um there was a cool planetarium

1446
00:52:54,470 --> 00:52:51,420
um which is this guy and it's this big

1447
00:52:56,390 --> 00:52:54,480
pyramid so it looks really cool right

1448
00:52:58,790 --> 00:52:56,400
um you can kind of see a Ryan in the sky

1449
00:53:00,349 --> 00:52:58,800
above it uh but yeah you go in and they

1450
00:53:02,089 --> 00:53:00,359
kind of show you this show and things

1451
00:53:03,950 --> 00:53:02,099
like that really cool experience if you

1452
00:53:06,410 --> 00:53:03,960
ever get to visit but part of it they

1453
00:53:09,530 --> 00:53:06,420
were talking about the the kind of

1454
00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:09,540
bubbles of all the all the

1455
00:53:13,609 --> 00:53:11,940
galaxies in the universe

1456
00:53:15,349 --> 00:53:13,619
so what you're looking at on screen now

1457
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:15,359
each bubble you see is the

1458
00:53:20,150 --> 00:53:18,480
electromagnetic reach of stars and

1459
00:53:23,510 --> 00:53:20,160
planets in different parts of the the

1460
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:23,520
universe and I couldn't help but feel

1461
00:53:29,210 --> 00:53:25,920
and you guys might agree with me these

1462
00:53:32,030 --> 00:53:29,220
kind of just look like cells right yeah

1463
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:32,040
so once again you know when we when we

1464
00:53:36,829 --> 00:53:33,839
go on to these bigger scales we're kind

1465
00:53:38,870 --> 00:53:36,839
of seeing this fractal repetition

1466
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,880
um and I I wouldn't like to say what it

1467
00:53:41,870 --> 00:53:40,319
means you know some people think we

1468
00:53:43,130 --> 00:53:41,880
might be inside a bigger organism or

1469
00:53:45,349 --> 00:53:43,140
something like that but we'll never be

1470
00:53:47,390 --> 00:53:45,359
able to actually appreciate

1471
00:53:49,010 --> 00:53:47,400
um but I thought it was really cool kind

1472
00:53:51,530 --> 00:53:49,020
of image to demonstrate that that

1473
00:53:54,109 --> 00:53:51,540
fractal nature of the universe again

1474
00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:54,119
As Above So as below right yeah

1475
00:53:58,849 --> 00:53:56,460
absolutely you got it

1476
00:54:03,049 --> 00:54:01,010
so this little guy here this is called

1477
00:54:05,930 --> 00:54:03,059
an alebrije

1478
00:54:07,250 --> 00:54:05,940
um and if you've seen Coco uh the the

1479
00:54:10,309 --> 00:54:07,260
Pixar movie

1480
00:54:12,829 --> 00:54:10,319
or or Book of Life as well uh these

1481
00:54:18,950 --> 00:54:16,490
and the whole idea is that someone will

1482
00:54:20,870 --> 00:54:18,960
take a plant medicine

1483
00:54:22,069 --> 00:54:20,880
and they will see a pattern they'll be

1484
00:54:23,870 --> 00:54:22,079
shown a pattern that they have to bring

1485
00:54:25,250 --> 00:54:23,880
back and share with the world and then

1486
00:54:26,510 --> 00:54:25,260
they come back and they do that as best

1487
00:54:29,089 --> 00:54:26,520
they can

1488
00:54:32,030 --> 00:54:29,099
um this is just a painting obviously but

1489
00:54:33,829 --> 00:54:32,040
a lot of people make actual models

1490
00:54:35,150 --> 00:54:33,839
I'm not sure if I've got a model here

1491
00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:35,160
but

1492
00:54:38,990 --> 00:54:37,260
um basically the the models are made out

1493
00:54:41,569 --> 00:54:39,000
of animal bones that are gathered from

1494
00:54:43,670 --> 00:54:41,579
the the jungles and areas around here so

1495
00:54:44,930 --> 00:54:43,680
it's a real sacred process so these

1496
00:54:47,690 --> 00:54:44,940
patterns that you're kind of looking at

1497
00:54:49,910 --> 00:54:47,700
here are what they call Cosmic patterns

1498
00:54:53,870 --> 00:54:49,920
uh they're given to us by you know the

1499
00:54:56,030 --> 00:54:53,880
the spirits so to speak wow

1500
00:55:01,329 --> 00:54:56,040
this was another cool dog here that I

1501
00:55:06,589 --> 00:55:04,370
so this is the the serpent tattoo

1502
00:55:08,270 --> 00:55:06,599
that you'll kind of see develop so it

1503
00:55:09,829 --> 00:55:08,280
started in Wales looking like this the

1504
00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:09,839
idea was to kind of fill it as I went

1505
00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:11,880
around so you can see that I kind of

1506
00:55:16,430 --> 00:55:12,960
have the feather Bloom from table

1507
00:55:20,870 --> 00:55:16,440
tubercan the patterns from here

1508
00:55:25,309 --> 00:55:23,569
so this brings us to Mont Albert which

1509
00:55:26,870 --> 00:55:25,319
was incredible

1510
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:26,880
a very memorable part of my dream

1511
00:55:29,990 --> 00:55:28,319
because I got stuck here after dark and

1512
00:55:32,930 --> 00:55:30,000
I had to walk over an hour back to

1513
00:55:34,849 --> 00:55:32,940
civilization uh luckily I was safe but

1514
00:55:36,829 --> 00:55:34,859
yeah and there's a very specific reason

1515
00:55:38,510 --> 00:55:36,839
I got stuck here after dark that's to do

1516
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:38,520
with

1517
00:55:49,630 --> 00:55:48,109
so this is a picture of kind of the

1518
00:55:53,210 --> 00:55:49,640
overall site

1519
00:55:55,010 --> 00:55:53,220
that is at the top of here and you can

1520
00:55:58,130 --> 00:55:55,020
really see in this model here that they

1521
00:56:00,530 --> 00:55:58,140
have how it's leveled so that they can

1522
00:56:02,569 --> 00:56:00,540
use it and that's just incredible you

1523
00:56:05,150 --> 00:56:02,579
know I I can't imagine

1524
00:56:07,190 --> 00:56:05,160
we we can kind of level things but

1525
00:56:09,170 --> 00:56:07,200
thinking of what they had available to

1526
00:56:10,730 --> 00:56:09,180
them back then just the amount of effort

1527
00:56:13,010 --> 00:56:10,740
that it took to make this would have

1528
00:56:15,470 --> 00:56:13,020
just been insane but it provides a

1529
00:56:17,990 --> 00:56:15,480
really good uh you know vantage point to

1530
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:18,000
kind of see The Valleys around and and a

1531
00:56:22,750 --> 00:56:19,680
really good defensive advantage point as

1532
00:56:26,089 --> 00:56:25,190
so there's this idiot

1533
00:56:29,210 --> 00:56:26,099
um

1534
00:56:32,630 --> 00:56:29,220
just to this huge size uh this right

1535
00:56:34,849 --> 00:56:32,640
behind me here this was an astronomy

1536
00:56:36,589 --> 00:56:34,859
related building so this was nothing to

1537
00:56:37,790 --> 00:56:36,599
do with kind of you know aligning with

1538
00:56:40,190 --> 00:56:37,800
the Stars and stuff but this is

1539
00:56:43,730 --> 00:56:40,200
absolutely where the people would go who

1540
00:56:45,710 --> 00:56:43,740
studied astronomy in in this area

1541
00:56:48,410 --> 00:56:45,720
and remember what I said as well this is

1542
00:56:50,329 --> 00:56:48,420
one of the sites kind of in the Hills

1543
00:56:52,609 --> 00:56:50,339
over here there'd be more and more over

1544
00:56:53,809 --> 00:56:52,619
here but there's smaller connections of

1545
00:56:56,210 --> 00:56:53,819
places but they all would have been part

1546
00:56:57,770 --> 00:56:56,220
of the same civilization I mean you can

1547
00:56:59,990 --> 00:56:57,780
really see the size of it comparing the

1548
00:57:03,049 --> 00:57:00,000
size of this dude here compared to you

1549
00:57:05,569 --> 00:57:03,059
know these people right over here

1550
00:57:07,309 --> 00:57:05,579
Dan where in Mexico is this in

1551
00:57:08,089 --> 00:57:07,319
relationship to like Mexico cities in

1552
00:57:10,670 --> 00:57:08,099
the south

1553
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:10,680
so it is in the

1554
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:12,420
South I want to say it's kind of

1555
00:57:16,670 --> 00:57:13,920
Southwest ish

1556
00:57:18,230 --> 00:57:16,680
um but definitely this South

1557
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:18,240
um yeah getting towards that kind of the

1558
00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:26,569
Nita Oaxaca so this this

1559
00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:29,099
is gonna play yes it'll play so you're

1560
00:57:32,030 --> 00:57:30,180
gonna be able to see me speaking I'll

1561
00:57:33,290 --> 00:57:32,040
tell you what I'm saying uh but the

1562
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,300
reason I took this video is because we

1563
00:57:38,030 --> 00:57:35,520
have two structures here this structure

1564
00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:38,040
here this was one Temple and then we

1565
00:57:41,510 --> 00:57:39,420
have this structure here and you can

1566
00:57:45,770 --> 00:57:41,520
kind of see that this one's flatter and

1567
00:57:49,490 --> 00:57:47,569
so there are

1568
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:49,500
well get guess how many years there are

1569
00:57:54,049 --> 00:57:52,079
between these two structures

1570
00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:54,059
um 300

1571
00:57:56,750 --> 00:57:54,900
.

1572
00:57:59,410 --> 00:57:56,760
300 you're not too far off you've kind

1573
00:58:02,890 --> 00:57:59,420
of ruined my point by guessing

1574
00:58:05,390 --> 00:58:02,900
it's 301.

1575
00:58:08,210 --> 00:58:05,400
there's so there's 400 years between

1576
00:58:10,490 --> 00:58:08,220
these two structures and the the reason

1577
00:58:13,250 --> 00:58:10,500
that I took this video is because I

1578
00:58:15,650 --> 00:58:13,260
think it really demonstrates what the

1579
00:58:16,970 --> 00:58:15,660
passage of time does to a place this

1580
00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:16,980
isn't just

1581
00:58:20,690 --> 00:58:19,140
you know a geological process other

1582
00:58:22,910 --> 00:58:20,700
things might affect it in you know human

1583
00:58:24,230 --> 00:58:22,920
things here kind of you know uh Temple

1584
00:58:27,109 --> 00:58:24,240
might have been torn down or something

1585
00:58:29,930 --> 00:58:27,119
like that but in only 400 years we've

1586
00:58:33,410 --> 00:58:29,940
gone from a full building to I mean

1587
00:58:34,849 --> 00:58:33,420
nothing right like if you saw that

1588
00:58:36,530 --> 00:58:34,859
um unless you were an archaeologist that

1589
00:58:38,630 --> 00:58:36,540
knew that you know what might be under

1590
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,640
there once you've found this building uh

1591
00:58:41,870 --> 00:58:40,079
you you just pass over it you think it

1592
00:58:44,589 --> 00:58:41,880
was just ground

1593
00:58:47,329 --> 00:58:44,599
um and yet we have people asserting that

1594
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:47,339
uh you know we know that Humanity goes

1595
00:58:51,049 --> 00:58:49,200
back we thought it was about you know 10

1596
00:58:53,569 --> 00:58:51,059
000 years that's expanded recently to

1597
00:58:54,650 --> 00:58:53,579
you know we think it's 150 200 000 years

1598
00:58:56,990 --> 00:58:54,660
now

1599
00:58:58,910 --> 00:58:57,000
um but it just keeps getting older and

1600
00:59:00,710 --> 00:58:58,920
when you people say oh but why wouldn't

1601
00:59:02,750 --> 00:59:00,720
we find anything that they had this is

1602
00:59:05,630 --> 00:59:02,760
why this is 400 years difference here

1603
00:59:07,670 --> 00:59:05,640
imagine what this would look like if it

1604
00:59:10,490 --> 00:59:07,680
was 5 000 years or ten thousand years or

1605
00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:10,500
100 000 years we would have nothing you

1606
00:59:14,329 --> 00:59:12,359
know everything returns to dust the

1607
00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:14,339
ground to to its constituent elements

1608
00:59:18,650 --> 00:59:16,260
and it's amazing to kind of think about

1609
00:59:20,329 --> 00:59:18,660
that and so really realize

1610
00:59:23,270 --> 00:59:20,339
um you know this whole site could be

1611
00:59:24,349 --> 00:59:23,280
built on another site and and as I've

1612
00:59:27,049 --> 00:59:24,359
been saying as we've been going through

1613
00:59:28,730 --> 00:59:27,059
them all of these sites uh are built

1614
00:59:30,109 --> 00:59:28,740
upon they're expanded as the as the

1615
00:59:33,230 --> 00:59:30,119
peoples grow

1616
00:59:34,730 --> 00:59:33,240
um and like teotua can it could be that

1617
00:59:36,530 --> 00:59:34,740
the structures were found from an

1618
00:59:38,270 --> 00:59:36,540
earlier peoples though we just don't

1619
00:59:40,069 --> 00:59:38,280
know anything about

1620
00:59:41,930 --> 00:59:40,079
um so history is amazing and it really

1621
00:59:44,270 --> 00:59:41,940
is a mystery you know the mainstream

1622
00:59:46,670 --> 00:59:44,280
kind of story that we know everything

1623
00:59:51,049 --> 00:59:46,680
about our past is codswallop it's

1624
00:59:54,849 --> 00:59:53,089
so this is the reason that I got stuck

1625
00:59:58,309 --> 00:59:54,859
here for a few hours

1626
01:00:00,829 --> 00:59:58,319
this is a alignment tool for tracking

1627
01:00:03,349 --> 01:00:00,839
the sun and the stars and I wanted to

1628
01:00:05,450 --> 01:00:03,359
stay here so that I could use it to kind

1629
01:00:07,010 --> 01:00:05,460
of track the stars in the way that they

1630
01:00:08,690 --> 01:00:07,020
did and there was something kind of

1631
01:00:10,730 --> 01:00:08,700
magical about being in the site on my

1632
01:00:11,870 --> 01:00:10,740
own after dark using it in the way

1633
01:00:13,849 --> 01:00:11,880
they've really used it you know

1634
01:00:17,089 --> 01:00:13,859
thousands and thousands of years ago uh

1635
01:00:18,829 --> 01:00:17,099
we're talking about 500 BC by the way

1636
01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:18,839
um and here I am with my modern

1637
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:21,180
technology you know kind of overlaying

1638
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:23,640
the star patterns and things like that

1639
01:00:26,930 --> 01:00:25,440
um for all intensive purposes what I was

1640
01:00:29,930 --> 01:00:26,940
doing to these peoples would be

1641
01:00:31,970 --> 01:00:29,940
completely magic right is this a my

1642
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:31,980
insight or Olmec or do they know who

1643
01:00:38,210 --> 01:00:34,799
made this so they think zapotec

1644
01:00:41,390 --> 01:00:38,220
um not entirely sure who started it um

1645
01:00:43,549 --> 01:00:41,400
it was abandoned around 500 to 750 A.D

1646
01:00:45,230 --> 01:00:43,559
and replaced by kind of lots of smaller

1647
01:00:47,030 --> 01:00:45,240
places around so it's Cholula for

1648
01:00:48,710 --> 01:00:47,040
example would have taken some of the

1649
01:00:50,450 --> 01:00:48,720
power from this place uh you know some

1650
01:00:52,370 --> 01:00:50,460
of the peoples and the important peoples

1651
01:00:54,410 --> 01:00:52,380
would have would have gone on that and

1652
01:00:56,510 --> 01:00:54,420
to some of the other places as well

1653
01:00:59,390 --> 01:00:56,520
but they think in this site alone just

1654
01:01:01,430 --> 01:00:59,400
Montalban they were about 5 000 people

1655
01:01:03,950 --> 01:01:01,440
uh you know that would be here all the

1656
01:01:08,030 --> 01:01:03,960
time wow

1657
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:09,530
so I couldn't quite get a good picture

1658
01:01:14,049 --> 01:01:12,480
of it to be honest but on the face of it

1659
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:14,059
and it's kind of around the middle

1660
01:01:19,190 --> 01:01:16,799
people have probably heard of Graham

1661
01:01:20,809 --> 01:01:19,200
Hancock and his uh you know his handbags

1662
01:01:22,309 --> 01:01:20,819
that are depicted on lots of ancient

1663
01:01:24,230 --> 01:01:22,319
sites over the world people carrying

1664
01:01:27,410 --> 01:01:24,240
handbags to them this pillar had some of

1665
01:01:29,150 --> 01:01:27,420
those bags on it so yet again this is

1666
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:29,160
kind of uh and for me this was one of

1667
01:01:32,750 --> 01:01:30,480
the first times I'd seen those those

1668
01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:32,760
handbags uh people guess what was in

1669
01:01:35,450 --> 01:01:34,020
them you know some people think it was

1670
01:01:36,530 --> 01:01:35,460
seeds some people think they represent

1671
01:01:38,030 --> 01:01:36,540
knowledge

1672
01:01:40,370 --> 01:01:38,040
um other people think it was you know

1673
01:01:41,990 --> 01:01:40,380
advanced technology and the truth is it

1674
01:01:45,109 --> 01:01:42,000
could be anything but all it seems to

1675
01:01:49,210 --> 01:01:45,119
denote is that people brought something

1676
01:01:50,750 --> 01:01:49,220
to the area that they didn't have before

1677
01:01:53,089 --> 01:01:50,760
[Music]

1678
01:01:55,609 --> 01:01:53,099
wow

1679
01:02:00,049 --> 01:01:55,619
I could spend hours there I see why you

1680
01:02:05,030 --> 01:02:02,450
ah

1681
01:02:07,670 --> 01:02:05,040
and what's amazing to me about this Dan

1682
01:02:09,710 --> 01:02:07,680
is that I had never heard of Monte Alban

1683
01:02:12,289 --> 01:02:09,720
you know what I mean and we we hear

1684
01:02:14,390 --> 01:02:12,299
about Chichen Itza if it's a few people

1685
01:02:16,430 --> 01:02:14,400
even hear about teutotiwakan and then

1686
01:02:19,549 --> 01:02:16,440
here you have this massive megalithic

1687
01:02:21,289 --> 01:02:19,559
site you know is is this just are these

1688
01:02:22,730 --> 01:02:21,299
just littered everywhere I mean it seems

1689
01:02:25,309 --> 01:02:22,740
like every week you're sending me new

1690
01:02:26,750 --> 01:02:25,319
photos of a site like this yeah pretty

1691
01:02:28,910 --> 01:02:26,760
much you know I didn't realize it was

1692
01:02:31,309 --> 01:02:28,920
here until you know I wanted to go to

1693
01:02:32,809 --> 01:02:31,319
Oaxaca for people say to come to taste

1694
01:02:36,170 --> 01:02:32,819
the food because a lot of the great

1695
01:02:36,829 --> 01:02:36,180
Mexican foods like mole originate here

1696
01:02:39,349 --> 01:02:36,839
um

1697
01:02:40,370 --> 01:02:39,359
once I was there you know when you look

1698
01:02:41,690 --> 01:02:40,380
on a map and you're just like okay

1699
01:02:43,490 --> 01:02:41,700
what's around

1700
01:02:47,150 --> 01:02:43,500
um and Oaxaca is one of these places

1701
01:02:48,770 --> 01:02:47,160
that it's near a lot of things uh so I

1702
01:02:50,630 --> 01:02:48,780
don't have it with me but I have this

1703
01:02:52,849 --> 01:02:50,640
map that kind of just shows you just how

1704
01:02:54,530 --> 01:02:52,859
much is near and on that map I found

1705
01:02:56,089 --> 01:02:54,540
this and you know I wouldn't I wouldn't

1706
01:02:57,770 --> 01:02:56,099
have known it existed unless I just

1707
01:02:59,329 --> 01:02:57,780
found that map so yeah you're absolutely

1708
01:03:02,930 --> 01:02:59,339
right these places are just scattered

1709
01:03:04,670 --> 01:03:02,940
around so much uh and it's amazing to I

1710
01:03:06,530 --> 01:03:04,680
mean in the UK we we have a lot of

1711
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:06,540
ancient sites like you know you think of

1712
01:03:10,789 --> 01:03:08,160
Stonehenge and some of the castles and

1713
01:03:12,829 --> 01:03:10,799
things like that but we don't treat them

1714
01:03:14,569 --> 01:03:12,839
the same as they are here here they're

1715
01:03:16,250 --> 01:03:14,579
kind of just interspersed throughout our

1716
01:03:19,069 --> 01:03:16,260
civilization throughout the civilization

1717
01:03:21,710 --> 01:03:19,079
right down here you've got cities you

1718
01:03:23,870 --> 01:03:21,720
know all around it and it's just a very

1719
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:23,880
normal part of life I love how they kind

1720
01:03:30,289 --> 01:03:26,400
of embrace the the heritage

1721
01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:33,109
so this site is actually orientated uh

1722
01:03:36,770 --> 01:03:34,740
so right now we're looking south from

1723
01:03:39,289 --> 01:03:36,780
the north

1724
01:03:40,970 --> 01:03:39,299
you kind of have another Square again uh

1725
01:03:46,549 --> 01:03:40,980
where that sound kind of phenomena

1726
01:03:50,329 --> 01:03:48,049
I'd like to take a moment at each site

1727
01:03:52,430 --> 01:03:50,339
that I go to to just really you know

1728
01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,440
take in the energy there and and just

1729
01:03:56,329 --> 01:03:54,240
have a bit of quiet time

1730
01:03:57,890 --> 01:03:56,339
because a lot of the sites just they're

1731
01:03:59,630 --> 01:03:57,900
so busy that you just don't get a chance

1732
01:04:03,430 --> 01:03:59,640
and yeah this is really weird the magic

1733
01:04:07,730 --> 01:04:03,440
shines so you can see the sunset in here

1734
01:04:09,770 --> 01:04:07,740
uh so this would be to the west and this

1735
01:04:12,670 --> 01:04:09,780
Square here so you can see that it's

1736
01:04:15,710 --> 01:04:12,680
orientated north south west east

1737
01:04:17,630 --> 01:04:15,720
everything's built to kind of fall along

1738
01:04:19,210 --> 01:04:17,640
those lines which is just amazing when

1739
01:04:21,770 --> 01:04:19,220
you think about it you know

1740
01:04:24,109 --> 01:04:21,780
absolutely just this question here from

1741
01:04:25,970 --> 01:04:24,119
yawning says dan what a wonderful trip I

1742
01:04:27,890 --> 01:04:25,980
wonder how does the energy feel when you

1743
01:04:30,530 --> 01:04:27,900
visit these places are there differences

1744
01:04:31,549 --> 01:04:30,540
and if so could you explain them enjoy

1745
01:04:34,069 --> 01:04:31,559
your trip

1746
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:34,079
uh thank you yone and hello and yeah

1747
01:04:37,670 --> 01:04:35,760
absolutely the the energy in these

1748
01:04:39,410 --> 01:04:37,680
places is just

1749
01:04:42,410 --> 01:04:39,420
it just feels powerful you know whether

1750
01:04:45,530 --> 01:04:42,420
you're aware of the history or not there

1751
01:04:49,010 --> 01:04:45,540
just seems to be a kind of

1752
01:04:53,690 --> 01:04:51,890
just a sense of flow there is is the way

1753
01:04:56,990 --> 01:04:53,700
I would describe it it's almost like

1754
01:04:59,569 --> 01:04:57,000
these places were built in areas that

1755
01:05:00,890 --> 01:04:59,579
had that feeling as opposed to the other

1756
01:05:03,770 --> 01:05:00,900
way around they didn't create the

1757
01:05:05,450 --> 01:05:03,780
feeling these places to me seemed like

1758
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:05,460
you know someone got here and was just

1759
01:05:09,770 --> 01:05:06,720
like yeah this feels right you know

1760
01:05:11,690 --> 01:05:09,780
we're gonna build it here uh

1761
01:05:13,010 --> 01:05:11,700
the energy each site kind of feels

1762
01:05:14,470 --> 01:05:13,020
different when you're up some of these

1763
01:05:17,569 --> 01:05:14,480
pyramids especially the ones where

1764
01:05:19,609 --> 01:05:17,579
sacrifices happen you at least for me I

1765
01:05:22,309 --> 01:05:19,619
can't help but kind of feel

1766
01:05:24,950 --> 01:05:22,319
the same kind of Pang in my stomach that

1767
01:05:27,589 --> 01:05:24,960
I felt when I was walking around say uh

1768
01:05:29,630 --> 01:05:27,599
Ground Zero at 9 11 in New York uh

1769
01:05:33,170 --> 01:05:29,640
there's a real weight to to what

1770
01:05:34,730 --> 01:05:33,180
happened here so whether you know that

1771
01:05:36,349 --> 01:05:34,740
feeds into kind of some of the more woo

1772
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:36,359
stuff I don't know but I I would just

1773
01:05:41,710 --> 01:05:37,920
recommend that people go and just really

1774
01:05:44,270 --> 01:05:41,720
take the time to to sit and listen to

1775
01:05:48,410 --> 01:05:44,280
the energy of the area I can't explain

1776
01:05:51,829 --> 01:05:50,089
that's why it's kind of nice actually to

1777
01:05:53,089 --> 01:05:51,839
kind of stay after dark and things like

1778
01:05:55,609 --> 01:05:53,099
that because

1779
01:05:57,289 --> 01:05:55,619
the the wind kind of whistles through

1780
01:05:58,970 --> 01:05:57,299
these structures in ways that you don't

1781
01:05:59,870 --> 01:05:58,980
get to hear when people are talking and

1782
01:06:02,930 --> 01:05:59,880
you know

1783
01:06:04,370 --> 01:06:02,940
doing their tour kind of Spiel uh it's

1784
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:04,380
really amazing to think of how these

1785
01:06:08,950 --> 01:06:05,760
sites would have been connected to

1786
01:06:12,230 --> 01:06:08,960
Nature and the people there as well

1787
01:06:13,309 --> 01:06:12,240
so this is that stone tool I showed you

1788
01:06:16,250 --> 01:06:13,319
earlier

1789
01:06:18,470 --> 01:06:16,260
and I've basically lined it up here with

1790
01:06:21,530 --> 01:06:18,480
this was Jupiter

1791
01:06:24,770 --> 01:06:21,540
and I'm not sure if you can see it Venus

1792
01:06:26,630 --> 01:06:24,780
you can so there's Venus right there

1793
01:06:29,089 --> 01:06:26,640
um so this would have been used to do

1794
01:06:31,970 --> 01:06:29,099
exactly what I'm doing here line them up

1795
01:06:33,890 --> 01:06:31,980
see how it changes each night depending

1796
01:06:35,390 --> 01:06:33,900
you know away from here is it kind of

1797
01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:35,400
moved and then you track it over a year

1798
01:06:38,210 --> 01:06:36,660
and then you'd have a pretty good idea

1799
01:06:40,250 --> 01:06:38,220
of what the planets are doing in orbit

1800
01:06:41,510 --> 01:06:40,260
and things like that so it's amazing to

1801
01:06:44,510 --> 01:06:41,520
think what you can just do with a stick

1802
01:06:48,770 --> 01:06:44,520
in the ground basically right you divide

1803
01:06:52,490 --> 01:06:50,450
so again I kind of you know we're just

1804
01:06:54,289 --> 01:06:52,500
taking the time to take some pictures uh

1805
01:06:56,150 --> 01:06:54,299
to see all the stars orientated we've

1806
01:06:57,890 --> 01:06:56,160
got Ryan here

1807
01:06:59,870 --> 01:06:57,900
um and this this kind of little long

1808
01:07:01,910 --> 01:06:59,880
line on the rain is said to be his sword

1809
01:07:04,069 --> 01:07:01,920
but you know there's some more sordid

1810
01:07:07,250 --> 01:07:04,079
interpretations of that

1811
01:07:11,150 --> 01:07:07,260
um and then this is Taurus up here as

1812
01:07:15,410 --> 01:07:13,250
this is another astronomical alignment

1813
01:07:17,809 --> 01:07:15,420
tool and it's just amazing to see them

1814
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:17,819
all over the site because it

1815
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:20,640
I I've always had that if if only we

1816
01:07:23,390 --> 01:07:21,839
would reduce the light in the cities

1817
01:07:25,430 --> 01:07:23,400
where people could look up and be in

1818
01:07:26,930 --> 01:07:25,440
poor every night and feel as small as we

1819
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:26,940
are in the universe we might have a bit

1820
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:28,799
more respect for you know the planet

1821
01:07:33,589 --> 01:07:31,200
that we live on and the the power of

1822
01:07:35,630 --> 01:07:33,599
nature uh but unfortunately we don't get

1823
01:07:37,430 --> 01:07:35,640
to see things like this unless we go out

1824
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:37,440
of our way to see them

1825
01:07:40,250 --> 01:07:39,599
um and it's really quite incredible to

1826
01:07:42,410 --> 01:07:40,260
see

1827
01:07:44,089 --> 01:07:42,420
even make out you know some some little

1828
01:07:45,309 --> 01:07:44,099
spiral galaxies and some of these as

1829
01:07:47,870 --> 01:07:45,319
well

1830
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:47,880
stunning so beautiful

1831
01:07:51,020 --> 01:07:49,680
this isn't even the best one I've taken

1832
01:07:52,450 --> 01:07:51,030
as well you'll see in a second

1833
01:07:55,190 --> 01:07:52,460
[Laughter]

1834
01:07:56,690 --> 01:07:55,200
so this was on my walk back so this is

1835
01:07:58,010 --> 01:07:56,700
just off the edge

1836
01:07:59,150 --> 01:07:58,020
um you know on the road kind of bleeding

1837
01:08:01,430 --> 01:07:59,160
back down the mountain it was a three

1838
01:08:03,410 --> 01:08:01,440
kilometer walk back and my hotel was

1839
01:08:04,970 --> 01:08:03,420
just on the other side of here

1840
01:08:07,069 --> 01:08:04,980
so I had to kind of walk down and walk

1841
01:08:09,770 --> 01:08:07,079
back uh but it was absolutely worth it

1842
01:08:11,270 --> 01:08:09,780
and it was just I'm gonna kill you I'm

1843
01:08:13,789 --> 01:08:11,280
sorry I'm gonna mama bear a little bit

1844
01:08:16,249 --> 01:08:13,799
right now that was not safe

1845
01:08:18,829 --> 01:08:16,259
well I know that now having annual

1846
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:18,839
experience some of that but I got lucky

1847
01:08:27,470 --> 01:08:25,430
yeah it was beautiful and over here is

1848
01:08:29,090 --> 01:08:27,480
kind of the main part of Oaxaca as well

1849
01:08:31,010 --> 01:08:29,100
so that's what they call Centro they

1850
01:08:32,930 --> 01:08:31,020
have them in a lot of places and it's

1851
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:32,940
just where you know all the tourists go

1852
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,759
and kind of the the safe area we'll say

1853
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,440
um and yeah as Katie point now I'm far

1854
01:08:41,870 --> 01:08:39,120
outside the safe area doing really dumb

1855
01:08:43,550 --> 01:08:41,880
thing so yeah just safety and numbers

1856
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:43,560
you know if you're gonna do this be with

1857
01:08:48,050 --> 01:08:45,600
people

1858
01:08:50,689 --> 01:08:48,060
or maybe

1859
01:08:53,150 --> 01:08:50,699
there were no caps

1860
01:08:54,709 --> 01:08:53,160
I stayed too late this was the problem I

1861
01:08:56,930 --> 01:08:54,719
got a bus up there and all the cabs were

1862
01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:56,940
gone so I I managed to kind of get down

1863
01:09:00,950 --> 01:08:58,799
to about here and then I got a cab from

1864
01:09:03,289 --> 01:09:00,960
here so yeah but not before being chased

1865
01:09:06,789 --> 01:09:03,299
by a gang of dogs which was the first

1866
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:06,799
for me they're lucky they were cute

1867
01:09:12,590 --> 01:09:11,040
so this is just the sky so this was

1868
01:09:14,329 --> 01:09:12,600
you know when I got stuck I was a bit

1869
01:09:16,010 --> 01:09:14,339
bummed out but I was like you know what

1870
01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:16,020
let's just make the best of it and enjoy

1871
01:09:20,329 --> 01:09:19,199
the sky and it was absolutely stunning

1872
01:09:22,729 --> 01:09:20,339
yeah

1873
01:09:26,630 --> 01:09:22,739
so this brings me to Puerto Escondido

1874
01:09:28,370 --> 01:09:26,640
which uh I was in a post office in

1875
01:09:30,590 --> 01:09:28,380
Oaxaca I had plans to go a completely

1876
01:09:32,450 --> 01:09:30,600
different direction and the gentleman

1877
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:32,460
that was helping me send something back

1878
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:33,600
home

1879
01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:36,239
uh told me hey there's whales off the

1880
01:09:39,229 --> 01:09:37,380
coast

1881
01:09:42,470 --> 01:09:39,239
um not the country but you know the

1882
01:09:45,110 --> 01:09:42,480
animals and so I just dropped everything

1883
01:09:46,749 --> 01:09:45,120
and I went and what you're seeing in

1884
01:09:50,630 --> 01:09:46,759
this picture

1885
01:09:52,610 --> 01:09:50,640
is bioluminescence in a lagoon

1886
01:09:54,050 --> 01:09:52,620
and it's really hard to capture but you

1887
01:09:55,370 --> 01:09:54,060
kind of squash a little bit and it all

1888
01:09:57,890 --> 01:09:55,380
lights up

1889
01:09:59,689 --> 01:09:57,900
um and it made me feel bad to realize

1890
01:10:02,030 --> 01:09:59,699
that this is a defense mechanism of the

1891
01:10:05,630 --> 01:10:02,040
organism uh so when you swoosh it kind

1892
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:05,640
of gets frightened and glows uh but yeah

1893
01:10:10,669 --> 01:10:07,920
unfortunately it looks really pretty so

1894
01:10:12,910 --> 01:10:10,679
a lot of people were provoking it but it

1895
01:10:16,010 --> 01:10:12,920
was really hard to capture as well

1896
01:10:17,810 --> 01:10:16,020
uh you can kind of see

1897
01:10:19,910 --> 01:10:17,820
I'm waving my hand about in the water

1898
01:10:23,149 --> 01:10:19,920
here so you can kind of see what it

1899
01:10:25,610 --> 01:10:23,159
looks like it's wild wow

1900
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:25,620
it's really amazing kind of reminded me

1901
01:10:31,310 --> 01:10:28,320
of a chi from Dragon Ball Z you know a

1902
01:10:34,010 --> 01:10:31,320
lot of people would yeah they are doing

1903
01:10:35,450 --> 01:10:34,020
the move it was really quite cool

1904
01:10:37,790 --> 01:10:35,460
um and then I just wanted to show a

1905
01:10:39,530 --> 01:10:37,800
little bit of the the whales as well so

1906
01:10:43,370 --> 01:10:39,540
you'll see them here I think this might

1907
01:10:46,130 --> 01:10:43,380
be oh yeah here we go so just look here

1908
01:10:48,410 --> 01:10:46,140
oh yeah what type of whales were they

1909
01:10:51,229 --> 01:10:48,420
uh so we had a whole bunch of different

1910
01:10:52,910 --> 01:10:51,239
whales of oils so it's kind of smaller

1911
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:52,920
ones and yeah they were they were just

1912
01:10:57,649 --> 01:10:55,199
migrating up the coast basically and

1913
01:10:58,970 --> 01:10:57,659
they were huge and some people might

1914
01:11:02,330 --> 01:10:58,980
remember I interviewed Dr Michelle

1915
01:11:04,550 --> 01:11:02,340
fournet this year oh last year sorry um

1916
01:11:07,310 --> 01:11:04,560
about whale language and how they were

1917
01:11:10,130 --> 01:11:07,320
translating it so it was it was humbling

1918
01:11:11,870 --> 01:11:10,140
to to be able to look at Wales in the

1919
01:11:14,689 --> 01:11:11,880
context of not just you know the big

1920
01:11:16,850 --> 01:11:14,699
fish in the sea but kind of thinking you

1921
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:16,860
know this is one of the planets all the

1922
01:11:22,010 --> 01:11:19,320
civilizations they kind of have kids

1923
01:11:23,390 --> 01:11:22,020
They Mourn for their kids if they die

1924
01:11:26,270 --> 01:11:23,400
um you know they have pods that they

1925
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:26,280
stick with friends family uh and it's

1926
01:11:30,770 --> 01:11:28,560
quite something to to think of the

1927
01:11:32,450 --> 01:11:30,780
whales singing through the darkness in

1928
01:11:34,310 --> 01:11:32,460
song and and not really knowing where

1929
01:11:37,310 --> 01:11:34,320
they belong until someone sings Back and

1930
01:11:38,209 --> 01:11:37,320
yeah I thought that was really profound

1931
01:11:42,290 --> 01:11:38,219
to

1932
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Majestic in in this medium that they

1933
01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:44,340
call you know they probably don't even

1934
01:11:49,070 --> 01:11:46,140
realize there's water like us to air

1935
01:11:51,770 --> 01:11:49,080
right it's just what they live in

1936
01:11:58,310 --> 01:11:55,189
so here is just on the same trip

1937
01:12:00,890 --> 01:11:58,320
uh a whole bunch of dolphins

1938
01:12:02,930 --> 01:12:00,900
just living life

1939
01:12:04,910 --> 01:12:02,940
we think of ourselves as intelligent but

1940
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:04,920
quite frankly these guys have no taxes

1941
01:12:09,830 --> 01:12:07,679
to pay this is what they do all day oh

1942
01:12:12,830 --> 01:12:09,840
yeah so they just get to enjoy it who's

1943
01:12:14,090 --> 01:12:12,840
intelligent I would say you gotta figure

1944
01:12:16,310 --> 01:12:14,100
it out

1945
01:12:17,870 --> 01:12:16,320
yeah they absolutely do and this was

1946
01:12:19,130 --> 01:12:17,880
incredible because we got to go in and

1947
01:12:21,050 --> 01:12:19,140
swim and just see them in the natural

1948
01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:21,060
habitat and I I got to swim with

1949
01:12:24,290 --> 01:12:22,620
dolphins when I was younger visits here

1950
01:12:25,790 --> 01:12:24,300
in Florida but it was kind of in an

1951
01:12:27,590 --> 01:12:25,800
enclosure and this was totally different

1952
01:12:29,689 --> 01:12:27,600
you know when you were in the water you

1953
01:12:31,850 --> 01:12:29,699
could hear them talking to each other

1954
01:12:34,970 --> 01:12:31,860
um and Elena Loftus actually recently

1955
01:12:36,830 --> 01:12:34,980
blew my mind by by explaining to me the

1956
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:36,840
Dolphins don't just communicate through

1957
01:12:41,209 --> 01:12:39,360
sound they also make bubbles and

1958
01:12:42,890 --> 01:12:41,219
depending on the shape of those bubbles

1959
01:12:44,810 --> 01:12:42,900
and what those bubbles do when they kind

1960
01:12:47,990 --> 01:12:44,820
of touch you uh that's a form of

1961
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:48,000
communication for them wow which is just

1962
01:12:51,070 --> 01:12:49,679
amazing right like

1963
01:12:52,669 --> 01:12:51,080
think about

1964
01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:52,679
extraterrestrials and how we would

1965
01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:54,000
communicate with them we just think oh

1966
01:12:57,470 --> 01:12:55,679
yeah it's telepathy but they would need

1967
01:12:59,209 --> 01:12:57,480
to know English they would you know you

1968
01:13:01,370 --> 01:12:59,219
could kind of understand

1969
01:13:04,250 --> 01:13:01,380
why images are put into our heads

1970
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:04,260
instead of words right uh

1971
01:13:07,250 --> 01:13:05,760
and it's fascinating to think of how

1972
01:13:09,229 --> 01:13:07,260
they would even conceive of

1973
01:13:10,250 --> 01:13:09,239
communicating with us Gary Nolan webs to

1974
01:13:11,630 --> 01:13:10,260
point out you know how would we

1975
01:13:13,790 --> 01:13:11,640
communicate with ants we'd have to do it

1976
01:13:15,950 --> 01:13:13,800
with pheromones and then we're limited

1977
01:13:17,510 --> 01:13:15,960
by the language that they know and by

1978
01:13:19,070 --> 01:13:17,520
their memory as well because they can't

1979
01:13:20,570 --> 01:13:19,080
remember a whole sentence structure they

1980
01:13:22,189 --> 01:13:20,580
can maybe get two words and then they're

1981
01:13:23,810 --> 01:13:22,199
brains wipe and they go back to their

1982
01:13:26,510 --> 01:13:23,820
you know

1983
01:13:29,510 --> 01:13:26,520
their kind of Hive mentality it's really

1984
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:34,970
stunning wow

1985
01:13:39,169 --> 01:13:37,070
load I think this is just a little dude

1986
01:13:41,810 --> 01:13:39,179
doing a flip again

1987
01:13:45,110 --> 01:13:41,820
it's like right near the boat

1988
01:13:47,030 --> 01:13:45,120
honestly man this place was just when I

1989
01:13:49,250 --> 01:13:47,040
was on the way here um I met a really

1990
01:13:51,649 --> 01:13:49,260
kind baby called Liz on the bus who who

1991
01:13:53,990 --> 01:13:51,659
had uh you know a property here that I

1992
01:13:55,970 --> 01:13:54,000
ended up staying at uh

1993
01:13:58,669 --> 01:13:55,980
and she was saying that when people come

1994
01:14:00,649 --> 01:13:58,679
to Puerto Escondido they just don't want

1995
01:14:02,590 --> 01:14:00,659
to leave and I would absolutely say

1996
01:14:05,630 --> 01:14:02,600
that's true

1997
01:14:06,890 --> 01:14:05,640
a quiet Jam of Mexico and there are a

1998
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:06,900
couple of beaches kind of along the

1999
01:14:12,050 --> 01:14:09,600
coast by it as well that are very like

2000
01:14:13,189 --> 01:14:12,060
very kind of hippie for example there's

2001
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:13,199
a

2002
01:14:34,130 --> 01:14:31,970
right

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01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:34,140
[Music]

2004
01:14:45,169 --> 01:14:42,169
land animals I know because I have a

2005
01:14:49,130 --> 01:14:45,179
giant African shorter out in my lawn

2006
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:50,510
yeah these were huge and they were

2007
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:51,840
amazing because this was just in the

2008
01:14:54,770 --> 01:14:53,400
middle of the ocean and this dude's just

2009
01:14:56,870 --> 01:14:54,780
swimming along and coming up for air

2010
01:14:58,669 --> 01:14:56,880
every now and then and it feels like a

2011
01:15:02,330 --> 01:14:58,679
stressful existence but he was very

2012
01:15:07,669 --> 01:15:04,669
so this was the the Milky Way above

2013
01:15:10,130 --> 01:15:07,679
Puerto Escondido uh so this was I would

2014
01:15:12,830 --> 01:15:10,140
say my favorite place uh where I've been

2015
01:15:15,050 --> 01:15:12,840
able to see the sky and you can really

2016
01:15:16,610 --> 01:15:15,060
see especially in Orion up here Ryan's

2017
01:15:18,110 --> 01:15:16,620
almost lost in all of the other stars

2018
01:15:20,570 --> 01:15:18,120
that you can see that's that's how many

2019
01:15:23,810 --> 01:15:20,580
there were but this right here this

2020
01:15:25,310 --> 01:15:23,820
middle one is zabalba and zabalber is

2021
01:15:27,410 --> 01:15:25,320
where the Mayans believe their souls

2022
01:15:30,530 --> 01:15:27,420
would go to to be reborn and then they

2023
01:15:32,390 --> 01:15:30,540
would come back down to earth so whilst

2024
01:15:33,830 --> 01:15:32,400
you know there was no kind of mirroring

2025
01:15:35,810 --> 01:15:33,840
of the heavens there's certainly an

2026
01:15:37,370 --> 01:15:35,820
affinity for it and it's part of the

2027
01:15:38,750 --> 01:15:37,380
their story

2028
01:15:40,669 --> 01:15:38,760
um you know very often this Milky Way

2029
01:15:42,410 --> 01:15:40,679
here is called like a serpent or a

2030
01:15:44,030 --> 01:15:42,420
cosmic snake and again you can kind of

2031
01:15:45,290 --> 01:15:44,040
see the the attachments to the things

2032
01:15:47,330 --> 01:15:45,300
I've been saying already you know it's

2033
01:15:48,770 --> 01:15:47,340
really important to them to be able to

2034
01:15:51,830 --> 01:15:48,780
look up at this and to relate to the

2035
01:15:55,370 --> 01:15:51,840
universe and As Above So Below you know

2036
01:15:57,189 --> 01:15:55,380
I look at that just mind-blowing you

2037
01:15:59,930 --> 01:15:57,199
better pretty much

2038
01:16:01,910 --> 01:15:59,940
pretty much every single night here I

2039
01:16:03,350 --> 01:16:01,920
was out just kind of watching and there

2040
01:16:04,790 --> 01:16:03,360
were loads of bars and stuff along the

2041
01:16:07,130 --> 01:16:04,800
beach and

2042
01:16:09,649 --> 01:16:07,140
not a single night that I I go and enjoy

2043
01:16:12,050 --> 01:16:09,659
it it was just me and the universe

2044
01:16:13,370 --> 01:16:12,060
uh yeah it was a highlight of the trip

2045
01:16:15,290 --> 01:16:13,380
this is kind of me just playing with

2046
01:16:16,910 --> 01:16:15,300
Edison trying to bring the colors out um

2047
01:16:18,830 --> 01:16:16,920
so you can see the galactic core here

2048
01:16:20,570 --> 01:16:18,840
I'm a bit too aggressive with it but

2049
01:16:21,890 --> 01:16:20,580
yeah you can see that the Core is coming

2050
01:16:24,890 --> 01:16:21,900
out really nicely and you can see the

2051
01:16:27,470 --> 01:16:24,900
colors it's unbelievable you can also

2052
01:16:29,330 --> 01:16:27,480
see like the difference like this is a

2053
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:29,340
good example of the kind of thing that

2054
01:16:32,390 --> 01:16:31,199
NASA gives um we kind of go oh yeah

2055
01:16:34,189 --> 01:16:32,400
that's how the Milky Way looks but

2056
01:16:36,470 --> 01:16:34,199
actually this is closer how it looks to

2057
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:36,480
the eye and then this is what it looks

2058
01:16:39,950 --> 01:16:37,920
like once you start bringing things out

2059
01:16:41,870 --> 01:16:39,960
through editing so don't worry if your

2060
01:16:42,890 --> 01:16:41,880
pictures don't look like this it's not

2061
01:16:44,750 --> 01:16:42,900
you know

2062
01:16:46,610 --> 01:16:44,760
this is a little bit I got added as well

2063
01:16:48,050 --> 01:16:46,620
in Puerto Escondido

2064
01:16:50,750 --> 01:16:48,060
um

2065
01:16:52,550 --> 01:16:50,760
and this like literally at this point

2066
01:16:54,110 --> 01:16:52,560
I'm just giving sections to artists and

2067
01:16:55,669 --> 01:16:54,120
saying do what you want like just come

2068
01:16:56,270 --> 01:16:55,679
into the place

2069
01:16:58,130 --> 01:16:56,280
um

2070
01:17:00,770 --> 01:16:58,140
and this artist decided to kind of

2071
01:17:02,810 --> 01:17:00,780
capture the bioluminescence and the flow

2072
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:02,820
and the chilledness of Puerto Escondido

2073
01:17:07,189 --> 01:17:05,280
and and for me like this bit feels

2074
01:17:08,990 --> 01:17:07,199
really packed and busy which it was and

2075
01:17:10,729 --> 01:17:09,000
then this week you know just feels

2076
01:17:12,649 --> 01:17:10,739
really relaxed here and spacious and

2077
01:17:15,110 --> 01:17:12,659
that's exactly how it felt to me going

2078
01:17:17,090 --> 01:17:15,120
through them as well

2079
01:17:18,709 --> 01:17:17,100
so yeah those Puerto Escondido really

2080
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:18,719
beautiful kind of not so many on the

2081
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:20,880
ruins front but in terms of

2082
01:17:24,530 --> 01:17:22,560
seeing wildlife and I'm really

2083
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:24,540
appreciating some of the life that we're

2084
01:17:28,790 --> 01:17:26,640
on this planet with it was a

2085
01:17:31,910 --> 01:17:28,800
really important place for me to go I

2086
01:17:37,310 --> 01:17:33,709
whoa

2087
01:17:39,110 --> 01:17:37,320
that looks like the worst shoes kind of

2088
01:17:42,130 --> 01:17:39,120
that's exactly what it looks like and

2089
01:17:45,290 --> 01:17:42,140
that's exactly why I took it so this was

2090
01:17:48,770 --> 01:17:45,300
uh part of a tour and we actually got to

2091
01:17:50,930 --> 01:17:48,780
go through this kind of Canyon on on you

2092
01:17:53,870 --> 01:17:50,940
can see a boat down here

2093
01:17:57,410 --> 01:17:55,310
um and yeah we went all through this

2094
01:17:59,149 --> 01:17:57,420
Canyon and I've got a few images in here

2095
01:18:01,130 --> 01:17:59,159
just because they were so incredible

2096
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:01,140
moments of seeing life in the wild as

2097
01:18:04,250 --> 01:18:02,159
well

2098
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:04,260
this was really high up and

2099
01:18:07,430 --> 01:18:06,000
others but at this point I was with a

2100
01:18:09,709 --> 01:18:07,440
group of people that I met who were

2101
01:18:12,229 --> 01:18:09,719
really amazing and had recommended a few

2102
01:18:14,149 --> 01:18:12,239
books to me um one called the untethered

2103
01:18:16,490 --> 01:18:14,159
Soul which I recommend people read it's

2104
01:18:19,070 --> 01:18:16,500
just about how to live for happiness

2105
01:18:20,570 --> 01:18:19,080
instead of living for stress uh so yeah

2106
01:18:22,310 --> 01:18:20,580
I'd highly recommend that book and thank

2107
01:18:25,610 --> 01:18:22,320
them for giving it to me this is the

2108
01:18:27,649 --> 01:18:25,620
group this is Angela who's asleep and it

2109
01:18:28,790 --> 01:18:27,659
has no idea this picture exists so hi if

2110
01:18:30,290 --> 01:18:28,800
you're watching

2111
01:18:31,490 --> 01:18:30,300
um and these are two friends from

2112
01:18:33,410 --> 01:18:31,500
Hungary

2113
01:18:35,330 --> 01:18:33,420
who have actually gone back home now but

2114
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:35,340
they were the kindest people and they

2115
01:18:38,990 --> 01:18:36,719
just let me tag along on the tour with

2116
01:18:41,990 --> 01:18:39,000
them so that was real nice

2117
01:18:48,649 --> 01:18:44,810
so this is in uh near to San Cristobal

2118
01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:50,630
which I was trying to think of the name

2119
01:18:56,270 --> 01:18:53,460
of the State uh Chiapas I think it's in

2120
01:18:58,850 --> 01:18:56,280
um and it's very much you know a gateway

2121
01:19:00,709 --> 01:18:58,860
to the kind of the Yucatan so though

2122
01:19:02,810 --> 01:19:00,719
there's not a lot in San christabel

2123
01:19:04,370 --> 01:19:02,820
there's a lot you can do for example you

2124
01:19:06,050 --> 01:19:04,380
could just get a bus across the border

2125
01:19:07,970 --> 01:19:06,060
to Guatemala or you could go to places

2126
01:19:10,689 --> 01:19:07,980
like this or to Palenque or to the North

2127
01:19:16,130 --> 01:19:13,970
so this this here is a good

2128
01:19:17,149 --> 01:19:16,140
we all kind of panicked because we

2129
01:19:19,250 --> 01:19:17,159
thought this monkey was going to be

2130
01:19:20,750 --> 01:19:19,260
eaten by the crocodile you can see the

2131
01:19:23,630 --> 01:19:20,760
crocodile here

2132
01:19:25,370 --> 01:19:23,640
and the monkey's just in the tree here

2133
01:19:30,290 --> 01:19:25,380
luckily he stayed up there out of the

2134
01:19:34,610 --> 01:19:32,090
what was amazing was watching the kind

2135
01:19:36,530 --> 01:19:34,620
of the mannerisms of the monkey like

2136
01:19:38,149 --> 01:19:36,540
this monkey just sat kind of on the Rock

2137
01:19:40,729 --> 01:19:38,159
looking at us

2138
01:19:42,050 --> 01:19:40,739
with just curiosity you know when you

2139
01:19:44,270 --> 01:19:42,060
look into the eyes of animals and you

2140
01:19:44,870 --> 01:19:44,280
can kind of see a thought process

2141
01:19:46,669 --> 01:19:44,880
um

2142
01:19:48,709 --> 01:19:46,679
I I personally like to think that

2143
01:19:50,209 --> 01:19:48,719
animals are a lot more aware than we

2144
01:19:51,950 --> 01:19:50,219
give them credit for

2145
01:19:54,050 --> 01:19:51,960
um you know that we speak about

2146
01:19:55,729 --> 01:19:54,060
Consciousness as if we have it and they

2147
01:19:59,169 --> 01:19:55,739
don't and I actually think it's kind of

2148
01:20:02,990 --> 01:19:59,179
a sliding scale you know

2149
01:20:05,330 --> 01:20:03,000
so this brings me to Palenque Palenque

2150
01:20:06,649 --> 01:20:05,340
was incredible

2151
01:20:09,950 --> 01:20:06,659
um

2152
01:20:13,370 --> 01:20:09,960
but unfortunately was a lot busier than

2153
01:20:15,050 --> 01:20:13,380
than the other places this was a mine

2154
01:20:18,370 --> 01:20:15,060
City in chip

2155
01:20:22,070 --> 01:20:18,380
Chiapas and it was made around

2156
01:20:24,950 --> 01:20:22,080
226 BC I like the way that these signs

2157
01:20:26,510 --> 01:20:24,960
say around 226 and 226 is such a

2158
01:20:30,590 --> 01:20:26,520
specific number I would just be like

2159
01:20:32,450 --> 01:20:30,600
yeah around 200 I don't know around 226.

2160
01:20:34,790 --> 01:20:32,460
um it uses a whole bunch of different

2161
01:20:37,610 --> 01:20:34,800
construction techniques to to things in

2162
01:20:39,050 --> 01:20:37,620
the other areas and one of the only

2163
01:20:40,790 --> 01:20:39,060
reasons we know

2164
01:20:43,550 --> 01:20:40,800
the history of this place is because we

2165
01:20:45,290 --> 01:20:43,560
found a tomb that luckily contained a

2166
01:20:47,810 --> 01:20:45,300
whole bunch of uh

2167
01:20:49,550 --> 01:20:47,820
of dates and names and things like that

2168
01:20:52,430 --> 01:20:49,560
there's a ball cause here there's a

2169
01:20:55,010 --> 01:20:52,440
royal residence so this this structure

2170
01:20:57,050 --> 01:20:55,020
isn't necessarily to live in

2171
01:20:59,209 --> 01:20:57,060
um but there are a lot of places in the

2172
01:21:00,830 --> 01:20:59,219
jungle around what's been uncovered that

2173
01:21:02,630 --> 01:21:00,840
haven't been uncovered that are actually

2174
01:21:04,729 --> 01:21:02,640
the living quarters for people and when

2175
01:21:07,130 --> 01:21:04,739
I say living it's a real different way

2176
01:21:09,050 --> 01:21:07,140
of living to what we're used to if

2177
01:21:11,330 --> 01:21:09,060
someone had a home it's where they sleep

2178
01:21:12,770 --> 01:21:11,340
that's it apart from that you're up and

2179
01:21:14,810 --> 01:21:12,780
out you know kind of think of it more

2180
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:14,820
like a hostel than a than a hotel or or

2181
01:21:18,410 --> 01:21:16,159
a house

2182
01:21:19,669 --> 01:21:18,420
it was abandoned there for about the

2183
01:21:21,410 --> 01:21:19,679
year 800

2184
01:21:23,570 --> 01:21:21,420
um and was really sparsely populated by

2185
01:21:25,550 --> 01:21:23,580
the time the Spanish arrived but

2186
01:21:27,169 --> 01:21:25,560
just like all the other sites that this

2187
01:21:28,490 --> 01:21:27,179
one there was some areas kind of down

2188
01:21:29,870 --> 01:21:28,500
here that would be in uncovered steel

2189
01:21:32,450 --> 01:21:29,880
and you could actually go Wharf walking

2190
01:21:35,450 --> 01:21:32,460
in the jungle this site is in a national

2191
01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:35,460
park of Palenque and so you can go see

2192
01:21:39,290 --> 01:21:37,679
waterfalls and kind of animals and

2193
01:21:41,330 --> 01:21:39,300
things like that as well as visiting

2194
01:21:43,370 --> 01:21:41,340
this site so this was a real cool one

2195
01:21:45,229 --> 01:21:43,380
but I would say that it was super busy

2196
01:21:47,810 --> 01:21:45,239
there were a lot of vendors there

2197
01:21:49,790 --> 01:21:47,820
um so you're kind of at the top of these

2198
01:21:52,010 --> 01:21:49,800
structures

2199
01:21:53,870 --> 01:21:52,020
um trying to kind of take a moment and

2200
01:21:55,729 --> 01:21:53,880
and meditate and you've just got someone

2201
01:21:58,189 --> 01:21:55,739
yelling t-shirts for sale t-shirts for

2202
01:22:02,450 --> 01:22:00,290
um and they just so all these blue tops

2203
01:22:05,090 --> 01:22:02,460
here these are all vendors selling stuff

2204
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:05,100
and they literally like the path

2205
01:22:10,070 --> 01:22:07,679
um so yeah it just yeah you got some

2206
01:22:11,930 --> 01:22:10,080
more down here uh and it just kind of

2207
01:22:14,510 --> 01:22:11,940
took the magic out a little bit

2208
01:22:17,630 --> 01:22:14,520
but luckily it's a really really

2209
01:22:19,370 --> 01:22:17,640
beautiful place and so you know in my

2210
01:22:20,810 --> 01:22:19,380
memory these kind of guys are Falling

2211
01:22:21,410 --> 01:22:20,820
Away

2212
01:22:23,450 --> 01:22:21,420
um

2213
01:22:25,430 --> 01:22:23,460
and this structure structures kind of

2214
01:22:27,770 --> 01:22:25,440
extend down here as well

2215
01:22:28,970 --> 01:22:27,780
so you can go inside some of these

2216
01:22:31,790 --> 01:22:28,980
structures

2217
01:22:32,689 --> 01:22:31,800
no way that's really rare for these

2218
01:22:35,270 --> 01:22:32,699
sites

2219
01:22:35,870 --> 01:22:35,280
yeah absolutely right

2220
01:22:38,209 --> 01:22:35,880
um

2221
01:22:39,770 --> 01:22:38,219
they so you couldn't climb up this one

2222
01:22:41,090 --> 01:22:39,780
but yeah the other one you

2223
01:22:43,010 --> 01:22:41,100
cried

2224
01:22:45,050 --> 01:22:43,020
you just gotta be respectful and looking

2225
01:22:47,689 --> 01:22:45,060
at these structures here as well

2226
01:22:49,630 --> 01:22:47,699
would you agree with me that this sure

2227
01:22:52,610 --> 01:22:49,640
looks like another one

2228
01:22:54,470 --> 01:22:52,620
absolutely yeah absolutely

2229
01:22:55,970 --> 01:22:54,480
like I say they're uncovering these

2230
01:22:58,189 --> 01:22:55,980
things so the more they uncover the more

2231
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:58,199
they find and eventually you know if I

2232
01:23:01,010 --> 01:22:59,520
come back in a few years this might be

2233
01:23:02,209 --> 01:23:01,020
stripped and a whole other pyramid be

2234
01:23:03,950 --> 01:23:02,219
found there

2235
01:23:06,050 --> 01:23:03,960
um what's really obvious is that they

2236
01:23:08,209 --> 01:23:06,060
were just massive massive massive

2237
01:23:11,209 --> 01:23:08,219
civilizations here that just got kind of

2238
01:23:13,370 --> 01:23:11,219
pushed out and the history is lost uh

2239
01:23:14,689 --> 01:23:13,380
when the place was invaded and it's not

2240
01:23:16,790 --> 01:23:14,699
the only place in the world to to

2241
01:23:18,290 --> 01:23:16,800
experience that either so there's a you

2242
01:23:19,490 --> 01:23:18,300
know they say history is written by The

2243
01:23:21,169 --> 01:23:19,500
Victors

2244
01:23:23,930 --> 01:23:21,179
um I would say history is scrubbed out

2245
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,940
by the victors and it's uh it's

2246
01:23:26,930 --> 01:23:25,440
unfortunately a loss for us you know

2247
01:23:29,930 --> 01:23:26,940
we're trying to recover it but there's

2248
01:23:37,790 --> 01:23:29,940
only so much we can do

2249
01:23:45,169 --> 01:23:43,430
uh this was so it's a Mayan city okay

2250
01:23:46,910 --> 01:23:45,179
and I wouldn't be able to break them

2251
01:23:48,770 --> 01:23:46,920
down for you I do have a picture that

2252
01:23:50,689 --> 01:23:48,780
kind of breaks them down but it's

2253
01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:50,699
amazing to think of you know how they

2254
01:23:55,850 --> 01:23:53,460
kind of backwards engineered the

2255
01:23:58,189 --> 01:23:55,860
language to figure out but each of these

2256
01:24:01,430 --> 01:23:58,199
have like a constituent part that kind

2257
01:24:03,709 --> 01:24:01,440
of make up a wood or a term or you know

2258
01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:03,719
say this one might say prince and this

2259
01:24:06,770 --> 01:24:05,040
one might say important and this one

2260
01:24:08,870 --> 01:24:06,780
might say born on and this one might say

2261
01:24:10,250 --> 01:24:08,880
Tuesday and you know you combine all of

2262
01:24:11,930 --> 01:24:10,260
them to kind of get a picture of what's

2263
01:24:14,510 --> 01:24:11,940
going on

2264
01:24:16,970 --> 01:24:14,520
um but it just means that the sites were

2265
01:24:18,410 --> 01:24:16,980
decorated amazingly you can kind of see

2266
01:24:22,490 --> 01:24:18,420
the

2267
01:24:27,169 --> 01:24:22,500
yeah so you kind of got a little Rojo

2268
01:24:31,250 --> 01:24:29,390
so that's kind of in fact let me just go

2269
01:24:32,570 --> 01:24:31,260
back here so this is kind of how they

2270
01:24:34,970 --> 01:24:32,580
think they probably would have looked

2271
01:24:36,350 --> 01:24:34,980
you know being in use

2272
01:24:38,450 --> 01:24:36,360
um but like I said before it's it's

2273
01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,460
really guesswork you know

2274
01:24:42,890 --> 01:24:40,560
um you've got to imagine sitting there

2275
01:24:44,689 --> 01:24:42,900
you know me and Vinnie for example you

2276
01:24:45,830 --> 01:24:44,699
know having a glass of wine that kind of

2277
01:24:46,910 --> 01:24:45,840
probably would have happened here we

2278
01:24:49,130 --> 01:24:46,920
would have been chilling on the side

2279
01:24:51,229 --> 01:24:49,140
here and and you know we did they didn't

2280
01:24:53,750 --> 01:24:51,239
have wine bars they just kind of would

2281
01:24:55,370 --> 01:24:53,760
consumers that would be open to our

2282
01:24:59,570 --> 01:24:55,380
knowledge there's a lot we're still

2283
01:25:02,510 --> 01:25:01,430
this I absolutely loved because there's

2284
01:25:03,530 --> 01:25:02,520
a there's a film I love called The

2285
01:25:05,270 --> 01:25:03,540
Fountain where this kind of thing

2286
01:25:07,490 --> 01:25:05,280
happens um and it's all about my own

2287
01:25:09,530 --> 01:25:07,500
culture and and that stars revolver that

2288
01:25:11,090 --> 01:25:09,540
the kind of you know the the

2289
01:25:12,350 --> 01:25:11,100
resurrection happened so I took a

2290
01:25:14,510 --> 01:25:12,360
picture and thought I would share this

2291
01:25:16,370 --> 01:25:14,520
uh just because it emphasizes that we

2292
01:25:20,450 --> 01:25:16,380
are of Nature and we go back to Nature

2293
01:25:24,530 --> 01:25:22,430
so the Palenque the kind of the center

2294
01:25:26,689 --> 01:25:24,540
of the town was uh quite small but

2295
01:25:28,189 --> 01:25:26,699
really really relaxed and yeah she

2296
01:25:30,169 --> 01:25:28,199
happens yeah I was right I didn't get

2297
01:25:32,149 --> 01:25:30,179
that wrong

2298
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:32,159
foreign

2299
01:25:35,689 --> 01:25:34,320
so this was a gorgeous piece of art and

2300
01:25:37,189 --> 01:25:35,699
I'm just going to leave these on screen

2301
01:25:39,050 --> 01:25:37,199
for a second there are three parts to

2302
01:25:41,810 --> 01:25:39,060
this mural at the hotel because I really

2303
01:25:45,470 --> 01:25:41,820
want people to kind of take in

2304
01:25:47,570 --> 01:25:45,480
uh the the uh like for example here so

2305
01:25:49,250 --> 01:25:47,580
this is a tree but have a look at the

2306
01:25:52,250 --> 01:25:49,260
bottom of the roots here and they turn

2307
01:25:55,970 --> 01:25:54,350
so we kind of get that connection all

2308
01:25:59,149 --> 01:25:55,980
through the cosmos up

2309
01:26:01,370 --> 01:25:59,159
so this here is a jade mask that was

2310
01:26:03,709 --> 01:26:01,380
found in the Tomb of Palenque

2311
01:26:05,810 --> 01:26:03,719
what we can ask there Katie it looks

2312
01:26:09,830 --> 01:26:05,820
like someone's getting abducted that's

2313
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:15,050
yeah kind of going upwards right yeah

2314
01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:17,030
so these here

2315
01:26:21,709 --> 01:26:19,679
this kind of Notch with the hole in it

2316
01:26:24,350 --> 01:26:21,719
this was part of the the ball game that

2317
01:26:25,729 --> 01:26:24,360
they would play and yeah they just kind

2318
01:26:27,850 --> 01:26:25,739
of with their hips hit the ball through

2319
01:26:30,050 --> 01:26:27,860
the hole so there were a lot of like

2320
01:26:32,149 --> 01:26:30,060
thrusted motions during this game I

2321
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:32,159
guess it's very strange as he played uh

2322
01:26:35,209 --> 01:26:33,840
but you can look it up on YouTube so

2323
01:26:37,129 --> 01:26:35,219
inclined

2324
01:26:39,410 --> 01:26:37,139
but to me like a lot of these you know

2325
01:26:41,570 --> 01:26:39,420
that's the late The Late Show The Late

2326
01:26:44,330 --> 01:26:41,580
Late Show yeah a lot of things look like

2327
01:26:46,550 --> 01:26:44,340
planets and moons so you know they're

2328
01:26:48,530 --> 01:26:46,560
playing with the balls but they're also

2329
01:26:52,370 --> 01:26:48,540
kind of expressed as planets and playing

2330
01:26:53,870 --> 01:26:52,380
with these these Cosmic kind of things

2331
01:26:57,050 --> 01:26:53,880
and especially when we look here we

2332
01:27:01,010 --> 01:26:59,209
you know a lot of nature coming in being

2333
01:27:02,330 --> 01:27:01,020
intertwined with the spiral galaxies

2334
01:27:03,770 --> 01:27:02,340
here

2335
01:27:05,629 --> 01:27:03,780
um you know obviously this isn't a

2336
01:27:07,370 --> 01:27:05,639
massively old mural it's a fairly modern

2337
01:27:09,350 --> 01:27:07,380
one but you get to see how the culture

2338
01:27:13,510 --> 01:27:09,360
kind of appreciates these things

2339
01:27:15,530 --> 01:27:13,520
definitely wow so that was Palenque

2340
01:27:17,629 --> 01:27:15,540
incredible Dan

2341
01:27:20,209 --> 01:27:17,639
so this has kind of been my journey so

2342
01:27:21,770 --> 01:27:20,219
far Mexico City all the way down to the

2343
01:27:23,990 --> 01:27:21,780
coast

2344
01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:24,000
all the way across

2345
01:27:28,189 --> 01:27:26,159
and up to where I currently am which is

2346
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:28,199
where where I about ran out of time so

2347
01:27:32,629 --> 01:27:31,199
this here so this is an artist's

2348
01:27:34,550 --> 01:27:32,639
depiction of what chulula would have

2349
01:27:36,410 --> 01:27:34,560
looked like when it was fully built out

2350
01:27:38,930 --> 01:27:36,420
so what I showed you that little

2351
01:27:40,310 --> 01:27:38,940
structure would kind of probably be this

2352
01:27:42,350 --> 01:27:40,320
guy right here

2353
01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:42,360
so you can kind of really see how big it

2354
01:27:45,950 --> 01:27:44,040
would have been

2355
01:27:47,810 --> 01:27:45,960
um and you just see it for miles around

2356
01:27:49,490 --> 01:27:47,820
you know you get the volcano in the

2357
01:27:52,729 --> 01:27:49,500
background there

2358
01:27:55,010 --> 01:27:52,739
yeah so that kind of brings me to where

2359
01:27:59,330 --> 01:27:57,070
ran out of time basically

2360
01:28:01,189 --> 01:27:59,340
that's incredible and I appreciate you

2361
01:28:02,990 --> 01:28:01,199
sharing all that it's really eye-opening

2362
01:28:05,870 --> 01:28:03,000
and it just gives me the bug I just want

2363
01:28:07,669 --> 01:28:05,880
to get out and travel now

2364
01:28:09,229 --> 01:28:07,679
um which I guess leads into the kind of

2365
01:28:10,250 --> 01:28:09,239
the next talking point because obviously

2366
01:28:14,149 --> 01:28:10,260
you're

2367
01:28:16,189 --> 01:28:14,159
going to be in Colombia in about five

2368
01:28:17,450 --> 01:28:16,199
weeks time and I'll be flying out to

2369
01:28:19,010 --> 01:28:17,460
meet you so

2370
01:28:21,229 --> 01:28:19,020
yeah what do you want to say about

2371
01:28:22,610 --> 01:28:21,239
Colombia your expectations what you're

2372
01:28:25,129 --> 01:28:22,620
actually going to be doing out there for

2373
01:28:26,990 --> 01:28:25,139
anybody that might not know

2374
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:27,000
yeah for sure so

2375
01:28:31,010 --> 01:28:29,280
assuming that you people just haven't

2376
01:28:33,709 --> 01:28:31,020
seen phenomenology

2377
01:28:37,010 --> 01:28:33,719
uh basically uh Vinnie and I were

2378
01:28:38,689 --> 01:28:37,020
invited to go see a phenomenon or to see

2379
01:28:41,030 --> 01:28:38,699
an area where a phenomena was said to

2380
01:28:43,270 --> 01:28:41,040
occur and this goes back thousands of

2381
01:28:45,169 --> 01:28:43,280
thousands of years the the local

2382
01:28:46,070 --> 01:28:45,179
indigenous people

2383
01:28:49,070 --> 01:28:46,080
um

2384
01:28:51,370 --> 01:28:49,080
say that this is the spirits of

2385
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:51,380
ancestors they say they're it's you know

2386
01:28:56,030 --> 01:28:53,760
visitors From Another World the the

2387
01:28:58,310 --> 01:28:56,040
actual Mountain that we were looking at

2388
01:29:00,110 --> 01:28:58,320
has a flat face that's called the mirror

2389
01:29:02,209 --> 01:29:00,120
door which is the doorway of the Gods

2390
01:29:04,010 --> 01:29:02,219
that's how it's described so we were

2391
01:29:06,649 --> 01:29:04,020
invited to kind of go up this mountain

2392
01:29:08,990 --> 01:29:06,659
to see what we could see to interview a

2393
01:29:11,330 --> 01:29:09,000
lot the locals who seem to have you know

2394
01:29:14,570 --> 01:29:11,340
UFO experiences

2395
01:29:18,229 --> 01:29:14,580
um and yeah to try and film it

2396
01:29:21,649 --> 01:29:18,239
essentially and in season one I can say

2397
01:29:23,090 --> 01:29:21,659
that Vinnie and Ash uh actually got

2398
01:29:25,490 --> 01:29:23,100
I would say

2399
01:29:28,010 --> 01:29:25,500
confidently the first HD footage and

2400
01:29:30,410 --> 01:29:28,020
history of this light phenomena uh you

2401
01:29:32,629 --> 01:29:30,420
know splitting into from one ball of

2402
01:29:35,689 --> 01:29:32,639
light into triangle of three or so

2403
01:29:38,750 --> 01:29:35,699
lights and changing colors as well so in

2404
01:29:41,209 --> 01:29:38,760
season two we're going back on what's

2405
01:29:43,550 --> 01:29:41,219
called Holy Week which is when the

2406
01:29:44,689 --> 01:29:43,560
lights are said to be most active and

2407
01:29:47,209 --> 01:29:44,699
we're going to be going up the mountain

2408
01:29:49,669 --> 01:29:47,219
with with our own kind of lights with

2409
01:29:51,229 --> 01:29:49,679
LEDs and things like that to kind of see

2410
01:29:52,430 --> 01:29:51,239
how they compare to what we captured

2411
01:29:54,050 --> 01:29:52,440
last year just in case it was people

2412
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:54,060
with torches we don't think it was but

2413
01:29:59,750 --> 01:29:55,920
gotta check it

2414
01:30:02,270 --> 01:29:59,760
um Vinnie has got a thermal drone now as

2415
01:30:04,189 --> 01:30:02,280
well so we're going to be using that and

2416
01:30:05,450 --> 01:30:04,199
we'll be able to kind of set a

2417
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:05,460
temperature limit to kind of say you

2418
01:30:08,209 --> 01:30:06,960
know if two months only show us the

2419
01:30:09,709 --> 01:30:08,219
human shape

2420
01:30:11,930 --> 01:30:09,719
um so we'll definitely be able to see if

2421
01:30:13,870 --> 01:30:11,940
it's people and if it's not

2422
01:30:15,669 --> 01:30:13,880
I mean you know

2423
01:30:20,629 --> 01:30:15,679
people

2424
01:30:22,490 --> 01:30:20,639
check right select the data collect the

2425
01:30:24,590 --> 01:30:22,500
data yeah this is what I appreciate

2426
01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:24,600
about you too yeah exactly that's what I

2427
01:30:28,030 --> 01:30:25,679
appreciate about YouTube about

2428
01:30:29,990 --> 01:30:28,040
phenomenology is that you guys are

2429
01:30:31,970 --> 01:30:30,000
documenting something that could be

2430
01:30:33,830 --> 01:30:31,980
incredibly

2431
01:30:36,229 --> 01:30:33,840
um I hate the word paranormal

2432
01:30:37,550 --> 01:30:36,239
Supernatural I mean natural but

2433
01:30:39,229 --> 01:30:37,560
different

2434
01:30:41,870 --> 01:30:39,239
um but you're doing it very cautiously

2435
01:30:43,910 --> 01:30:41,880
and respectfully to Gathering the

2436
01:30:46,370 --> 01:30:43,920
evidence and not making conclusions

2437
01:30:47,870 --> 01:30:46,380
before you see where it leads

2438
01:30:51,530 --> 01:30:47,880
um I appreciate that about both of you

2439
01:30:52,430 --> 01:30:51,540
are you bringing anyone new onto the

2440
01:30:54,890 --> 01:30:52,440
team

2441
01:30:55,790 --> 01:30:54,900
there are a number of new people I'm not

2442
01:30:57,530 --> 01:30:55,800
going to be able to remember them all

2443
01:30:59,610 --> 01:30:57,540
off my head Vinnie do you have a list of

2444
01:31:03,550 --> 01:30:59,620
names there by any chance

2445
01:31:07,070 --> 01:31:03,560
[Laughter]

2446
01:31:09,770 --> 01:31:07,080
there was a literally a a team meeting

2447
01:31:10,970 --> 01:31:09,780
for season two that's up on YouTube

2448
01:31:15,530 --> 01:31:10,980
um Vinnie you could probably put that

2449
01:31:19,550 --> 01:31:17,629
um Priscilla's gonna be joining us uh

2450
01:31:23,810 --> 01:31:19,560
Quantum witch we've got Elena Loftus

2451
01:31:27,110 --> 01:31:23,820
joining us too uh we've got uh Hayden

2452
01:31:28,850 --> 01:31:27,120
um a I forget Hayden surname I apologize

2453
01:31:30,890 --> 01:31:28,860
I'm actually gonna find this one because

2454
01:31:34,129 --> 01:31:30,900
Hayden's an incredible musician from

2455
01:31:37,250 --> 01:31:34,139
Australia and he is really sending a new

2456
01:31:39,590 --> 01:31:37,260
album soon Hayden Kalman

2457
01:31:40,970 --> 01:31:39,600
um and yeah there's a great song that he

2458
01:31:44,270 --> 01:31:40,980
wrote called what it means to be human

2459
01:31:45,709 --> 01:31:44,280
that I I think is is very potent and

2460
01:31:47,330 --> 01:31:45,719
relevant and

2461
01:31:48,530 --> 01:31:47,340
I'm really looking forward to kind of

2462
01:31:51,530 --> 01:31:48,540
seeing

2463
01:31:53,149 --> 01:31:51,540
how all these different people you know

2464
01:31:55,310 --> 01:31:53,159
Priscilla's kind of coming from a more

2465
01:31:57,530 --> 01:31:55,320
esoteric kind of point of view Hayden's

2466
01:31:59,870 --> 01:31:57,540
coming from a creative Place Vinnie's

2467
01:32:01,850 --> 01:31:59,880
coming from a very data-driven place I'm

2468
01:32:03,950 --> 01:32:01,860
kind of I would say in the middle kind

2469
01:32:05,810 --> 01:32:03,960
of you know open to a lot

2470
01:32:07,669 --> 01:32:05,820
um and then we've got a whole bunch of

2471
01:32:09,590 --> 01:32:07,679
other people who are coming from all

2472
01:32:12,290 --> 01:32:09,600
their different places as well and this

2473
01:32:15,229 --> 01:32:12,300
speaks to the title of the show which is

2474
01:32:17,270 --> 01:32:15,239
phenomenology which literally is just

2475
01:32:20,470 --> 01:32:17,280
referring to and I just want to note

2476
01:32:23,990 --> 01:32:20,480
here that the Pentagon one's called UAP

2477
01:32:26,149 --> 01:32:24,000
unidentified anomalous phenomenology and

2478
01:32:28,390 --> 01:32:26,159
it's curious that they did that because

2479
01:32:31,310 --> 01:32:28,400
those word is referring to the different

2480
01:32:34,490 --> 01:32:31,320
subjective experiences we could have of

2481
01:32:35,870 --> 01:32:34,500
objective events so say for example the

2482
01:32:37,790 --> 01:32:35,880
Northern Lights

2483
01:32:41,450 --> 01:32:37,800
some people can look at that and see you

2484
01:32:42,770 --> 01:32:41,460
know that it's a bunch of uh energy from

2485
01:32:44,810 --> 01:32:42,780
the Sun hitting the atmosphere and

2486
01:32:47,870 --> 01:32:44,820
expressing as you know those incredible

2487
01:32:49,370 --> 01:32:47,880
light shows uh whereas other people just

2488
01:32:51,229 --> 01:32:49,380
think they're kind of like a

2489
01:32:52,490 --> 01:32:51,239
supernatural thing going on you know in

2490
01:32:54,530 --> 01:32:52,500
history

2491
01:32:56,030 --> 01:32:54,540
um or a simple way to put it in fact

2492
01:32:57,770 --> 01:32:56,040
would be to kind of say the color red

2493
01:32:59,570 --> 01:32:57,780
some people see and see danger other

2494
01:33:01,310 --> 01:32:59,580
people see it and see passion you know

2495
01:33:02,990 --> 01:33:01,320
that is phenomenology in a nutshell

2496
01:33:05,390 --> 01:33:03,000
there uh just interpreting something

2497
01:33:06,830 --> 01:33:05,400
objective differently uh so yeah I

2498
01:33:10,250 --> 01:33:06,840
thought it was curious that the Pentagon

2499
01:33:13,610 --> 01:33:10,260
used that uh in in and I say Pentagon I

2500
01:33:15,290 --> 01:33:13,620
it was Jay Stratton uh in one of his

2501
01:33:17,090 --> 01:33:15,300
initial reports he used the term

2502
01:33:18,770 --> 01:33:17,100
phenomenology so it's really curious

2503
01:33:20,930 --> 01:33:18,780
that he did that

2504
01:33:23,570 --> 01:33:20,940
um especially when you think that

2505
01:33:24,950 --> 01:33:23,580
the phenomenon of you know when I say

2506
01:33:26,810 --> 01:33:24,960
the phenomenon there are going to be

2507
01:33:31,250 --> 01:33:26,820
people out there that say be specific I

2508
01:33:34,610 --> 01:33:31,260
mean the phenomenon uh the the UFOs

2509
01:33:36,430 --> 01:33:34,620
um that we hear that they can kind of

2510
01:33:38,870 --> 01:33:36,440
manipulate us

2511
01:33:41,570 --> 01:33:38,880
via our minds to make us see different

2512
01:33:42,590 --> 01:33:41,580
things there's that Infamous case that

2513
01:33:44,810 --> 01:33:42,600
um

2514
01:33:47,990 --> 01:33:44,820
that

2515
01:33:49,850 --> 01:33:48,000
Jack valet uh looked at where there was

2516
01:33:51,709 --> 01:33:49,860
a family in France who saw something in

2517
01:33:53,090 --> 01:33:51,719
the sky they took a picture what they

2518
01:33:54,530 --> 01:33:53,100
described wasn't what was in the picture

2519
01:33:56,750 --> 01:33:54,540
and the picture it was like this little

2520
01:33:58,850 --> 01:33:56,760
star thing um whereas they saw a craft

2521
01:34:00,709 --> 01:33:58,860
and and I think that's really important

2522
01:34:02,750 --> 01:34:00,719
part of this whole thing to discuss you

2523
01:34:05,450 --> 01:34:02,760
know we've just had a Chris Bledsoe

2524
01:34:07,270 --> 01:34:05,460
bring his book out and him and Ryan are

2525
01:34:10,310 --> 01:34:07,280
very sad on this being a religious thing

2526
01:34:12,290 --> 01:34:10,320
whereas for me if if so I don't know if

2527
01:34:14,810 --> 01:34:12,300
something came down and said I am this

2528
01:34:16,510 --> 01:34:14,820
I'd be like cool you could be presenting

2529
01:34:18,770 --> 01:34:16,520
yourself

2530
01:34:20,510 --> 01:34:18,780
well I know you

2531
01:34:21,890 --> 01:34:20,520
um there are in nature a number of kind

2532
01:34:23,149 --> 01:34:21,900
of animals that do this there's a

2533
01:34:25,370 --> 01:34:23,159
there's a wasp I can't remember the

2534
01:34:27,530 --> 01:34:25,380
wasp's name now but it basically will

2535
01:34:30,890 --> 01:34:27,540
change the the frequency with which it

2536
01:34:33,709 --> 01:34:30,900
beats its wings because it's prey will

2537
01:34:35,870 --> 01:34:33,719
only let things into the hive that that

2538
01:34:37,370 --> 01:34:35,880
match that frequency so it fakes it

2539
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:37,380
essentially and then just goes in alive

2540
01:34:40,790 --> 01:34:39,600
and has its way and eats the its way

2541
01:34:42,590 --> 01:34:40,800
through

2542
01:34:45,590 --> 01:34:42,600
um but that is nature it hides in plain

2543
01:34:49,310 --> 01:34:45,600
sight right little patches the trickster

2544
01:34:51,050 --> 01:34:49,320
the trickster exactly exactly

2545
01:34:53,270 --> 01:34:51,060
incredible

2546
01:34:59,570 --> 01:34:53,280
wow

2547
01:35:01,250 --> 01:34:59,580
personally uh I know we're gonna be a

2548
01:35:03,470 --> 01:35:01,260
lot it's gonna just be bigger and better

2549
01:35:04,970 --> 01:35:03,480
than season one bigger team bigger

2550
01:35:09,649 --> 01:35:04,980
investigations we're visiting more

2551
01:35:12,290 --> 01:35:09,659
locations looking at other historical

2552
01:35:14,570 --> 01:35:12,300
um importance in in that area of

2553
01:35:17,209 --> 01:35:14,580
Colombia when it comes to especially to

2554
01:35:18,350 --> 01:35:17,219
the locals and the the indigenous tribes

2555
01:35:20,270 --> 01:35:18,360
that were there so I'm looking forward

2556
01:35:22,010 --> 01:35:20,280
to that

2557
01:35:24,530 --> 01:35:22,020
um we're going to be filming Lots there

2558
01:35:25,669 --> 01:35:24,540
separately from the actual documentary

2559
01:35:27,950 --> 01:35:25,679
series aren't we Dan we're going to try

2560
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:27,960
and put our own little uh behind the

2561
01:35:30,890 --> 01:35:29,520
scenes thing together which we'll be

2562
01:35:32,990 --> 01:35:30,900
able to release on YouTube straight away

2563
01:35:35,090 --> 01:35:33,000
when we get back so people should look

2564
01:35:36,530 --> 01:35:35,100
out for that but yeah we don't want to

2565
01:35:38,149 --> 01:35:36,540
say too much obviously and give away too

2566
01:35:39,890 --> 01:35:38,159
many spoilers because we'd like people

2567
01:35:41,930 --> 01:35:39,900
to check it out when it's released which

2568
01:35:44,090 --> 01:35:41,940
hopefully will be the summer but then

2569
01:35:45,470 --> 01:35:44,100
that leads us to uh I guess the last

2570
01:35:47,689 --> 01:35:45,480
thing I wanted to talk about which

2571
01:35:49,970 --> 01:35:47,699
involves all three of us uh which is

2572
01:35:53,750 --> 01:35:49,980
Roswell New Mexico

2573
01:35:55,070 --> 01:35:53,760
oh finally making it out to the mecca of

2574
01:35:56,450 --> 01:35:55,080
UFOs

2575
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:56,460
are we going to tell people that we use

2576
01:35:59,590 --> 01:35:58,080
in time travel to go back and close the

2577
01:36:01,850 --> 01:35:59,600
crash

2578
01:36:03,590 --> 01:36:01,860
I mean I thought we were gonna keep it a

2579
01:36:05,390 --> 01:36:03,600
secret but now you just blabbed it on

2580
01:36:07,850 --> 01:36:05,400
YouTube oh you just added this bit out

2581
01:36:10,970 --> 01:36:07,860
right oh perfect this is live Jan this

2582
01:36:15,649 --> 01:36:13,669
no but I'm really excited so are you two

2583
01:36:17,450 --> 01:36:15,659
presenting together do you want to give

2584
01:36:19,070 --> 01:36:17,460
any any hints as to what you're talking

2585
01:36:20,990 --> 01:36:19,080
about I have ideas

2586
01:36:22,790 --> 01:36:21,000
yeah so Vinnie and I are going to

2587
01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:22,800
present together

2588
01:36:26,090 --> 01:36:24,239
um I know I'm going to be talking about

2589
01:36:27,649 --> 01:36:26,100
Columbia and Calvin Vinnie I don't know

2590
01:36:29,270 --> 01:36:27,659
if you wanted to do a dance sequence or

2591
01:36:30,770 --> 01:36:29,280
something but yeah I'll just do

2592
01:36:33,470 --> 01:36:30,780
interpretive dance all the way through

2593
01:36:35,810 --> 01:36:33,480
just be interpretive can you just sit on

2594
01:36:38,570 --> 01:36:35,820
the corner of the stage and Shane eat a

2595
01:36:40,729 --> 01:36:38,580
tuna pizza and we can throw things at

2596
01:36:44,450 --> 01:36:40,739
you while you do it that is I would say

2597
01:36:47,930 --> 01:36:46,550
well yeah they probably would do that

2598
01:36:50,330 --> 01:36:47,940
over there so I'll just have to buy a

2599
01:36:52,490 --> 01:36:50,340
big pizza and a Tina Tuna from the from

2600
01:36:53,870 --> 01:36:52,500
the you know warmer or whatever it is I

2601
01:36:54,770 --> 01:36:53,880
don't know what the supermarkets are out

2602
01:36:56,330 --> 01:36:54,780
there

2603
01:36:58,010 --> 01:36:56,340
Super Mercado

2604
01:36:59,270 --> 01:36:58,020
yeah you should you should hear me

2605
01:37:01,310 --> 01:36:59,280
speaking a little more Spanish in season

2606
01:37:03,770 --> 01:37:01,320
two as well instead of just you know

2607
01:37:06,470 --> 01:37:03,780
nodding and smiling at someone that I

2608
01:37:08,570 --> 01:37:06,480
don't understand that's cool I'm relying

2609
01:37:11,330 --> 01:37:08,580
on you man

2610
01:37:12,770 --> 01:37:11,340
that's gonna be good roswell's gonna be

2611
01:37:14,689 --> 01:37:12,780
great I can't wait to see you guys there

2612
01:37:17,689 --> 01:37:14,699
it'll be nice to have all three of us in

2613
01:37:19,010 --> 01:37:17,699
the same location yeah I know yeah and a

2614
01:37:21,290 --> 01:37:19,020
lot of other people as well I think a

2615
01:37:23,990 --> 01:37:21,300
lot of friends will be coming together

2616
01:37:26,629 --> 01:37:24,000
for a great experience great conference

2617
01:37:27,830 --> 01:37:26,639
and just good times when you said great

2618
01:37:30,350 --> 01:37:27,840
there I thought you were going to see

2619
01:37:31,610 --> 01:37:30,360
Graham because Graham Randall will be

2620
01:37:33,410 --> 01:37:31,620
joining us

2621
01:37:35,030 --> 01:37:33,420
um so he he's just one of the friends

2622
01:37:36,890 --> 01:37:35,040
that is going to be out there so uh yeah

2623
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:36,900
it's gonna be amazing so the person in

2624
01:37:41,090 --> 01:37:38,159
the comments that just said the Calvin

2625
01:37:42,649 --> 01:37:41,100
photo is a hoax just if we were next to

2626
01:37:45,590 --> 01:37:42,659
a pool like push you into it right now

2627
01:37:48,530 --> 01:37:45,600
there are no bodies of water in Calvin

2628
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:48,540
that show that people have been there on

2629
01:37:53,510 --> 01:37:50,400
site I'm all for being skeptical about

2630
01:37:55,370 --> 01:37:53,520
stuff but listen to the data jarek the

2631
01:37:57,350 --> 01:37:55,380
people that actually investigated that

2632
01:37:59,689 --> 01:37:57,360
image and had six images to work with

2633
01:38:02,330 --> 01:37:59,699
not one deemed that there was enough

2634
01:38:04,910 --> 01:38:02,340
movement and enough in the image to not

2635
01:38:07,010 --> 01:38:04,920
say that it was just a reflection and a

2636
01:38:08,930 --> 01:38:07,020
like plus I point out Reflections tend

2637
01:38:11,450 --> 01:38:08,940
to be symmetrical and the bottom on top

2638
01:38:12,290 --> 01:38:11,460
of the craft is not symmetrical so you

2639
01:38:14,270 --> 01:38:12,300
know

2640
01:38:17,090 --> 01:38:14,280
yeah there's a lot of other data points

2641
01:38:18,830 --> 01:38:17,100
we can go go into that another time but

2642
01:38:21,709 --> 01:38:18,840
it's been you know it's a genuine image

2643
01:38:23,149 --> 01:38:21,719
of an object that's all we know

2644
01:38:25,310 --> 01:38:23,159
would it be fair to save any other

2645
01:38:28,610 --> 01:38:25,320
people are going to hear something more

2646
01:38:31,250 --> 01:38:28,620
kind of in in the near future rather

2647
01:38:33,050 --> 01:38:31,260
than the long term there is yeah I think

2648
01:38:35,689 --> 01:38:33,060
something should be coming out soon that

2649
01:38:37,370 --> 01:38:35,699
we're just tying up some loose ends with

2650
01:38:38,750 --> 01:38:37,380
um it's no big Revelation or anything

2651
01:38:41,030 --> 01:38:38,760
it's been a very very difficult

2652
01:38:44,750 --> 01:38:41,040
investigation but yeah it's continuing

2653
01:38:46,610 --> 01:38:44,760
the next update will be soon I promise

2654
01:38:48,770 --> 01:38:46,620
it's just been a lot a lot of work

2655
01:38:52,010 --> 01:38:48,780
behind the scenes to get it done

2656
01:38:55,669 --> 01:38:52,020
yeah like put it this way if um if David

2657
01:38:57,169 --> 01:38:55,679
had clued in people when he started

2658
01:38:59,330 --> 01:38:57,179
um looking at

2659
01:39:00,830 --> 01:38:59,340
because it's not for debate that the

2660
01:39:02,090 --> 01:39:00,840
picture was taken in Calvin cool again

2661
01:39:05,510 --> 01:39:02,100
get out

2662
01:39:08,890 --> 01:39:07,070
I say that in a friendly manner by the

2663
01:39:13,129 --> 01:39:08,900
way

2664
01:39:16,149 --> 01:39:13,139
it's a pool of water he's definitely but

2665
01:39:18,770 --> 01:39:16,159
it's safe it's true on point

2666
01:39:19,790 --> 01:39:18,780
absolutely but yeah if David had

2667
01:39:21,229 --> 01:39:19,800
announced when he started that

2668
01:39:22,910 --> 01:39:21,239
investigation we would be more

2669
01:39:25,850 --> 01:39:22,920
frustrated in Waiting because he's been

2670
01:39:27,950 --> 01:39:25,860
looking at that for decades

2671
01:39:29,689 --> 01:39:27,960
um and if certain other people had maybe

2672
01:39:31,189 --> 01:39:29,699
actually investigated it we wouldn't

2673
01:39:33,350 --> 01:39:31,199
have to wait so long but he was the

2674
01:39:34,850 --> 01:39:33,360
first person to go to Calvin and pull up

2675
01:39:36,229 --> 01:39:34,860
posters asking if anyone had kind of

2676
01:39:38,810 --> 01:39:36,239
seen the picture or knew anything about

2677
01:39:41,149 --> 01:39:38,820
it and and narrowed it down to who took

2678
01:39:43,189 --> 01:39:41,159
it where they took it and actually got

2679
01:39:44,810 --> 01:39:43,199
one of the original pictures so yeah

2680
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:44,820
look at the data you just have to start

2681
01:39:48,410 --> 01:39:47,040
there yeah I have to say the next update

2682
01:39:49,729 --> 01:39:48,420
isn't going to be a video on the channel

2683
01:39:51,470 --> 01:39:49,739
or anything it's going to be something

2684
01:39:53,450 --> 01:39:51,480
out in the media hopefully that's as

2685
01:39:55,250 --> 01:39:53,460
much as I'll say for now but I think

2686
01:39:57,890 --> 01:39:55,260
when that comes out it'll be great to do

2687
01:40:01,430 --> 01:39:57,900
another uh panel on this channel

2688
01:40:03,350 --> 01:40:01,440
to really explain the depth of work that

2689
01:40:05,450 --> 01:40:03,360
has been put in since last August up

2690
01:40:07,010 --> 01:40:05,460
until now the amount of work that's been

2691
01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:07,020
done people really need to appreciate

2692
01:40:12,830 --> 01:40:09,600
how hard the the team have worked on

2693
01:40:14,930 --> 01:40:12,840
that so yeah absolutely and and they've

2694
01:40:17,330 --> 01:40:14,940
I would just emphasize they've they've

2695
01:40:19,010 --> 01:40:17,340
approached it like a proper journalistic

2696
01:40:20,510 --> 01:40:19,020
investigation as well you know David

2697
01:40:23,270 --> 01:40:20,520
isn't just a random person in the

2698
01:40:26,090 --> 01:40:23,280
community he's a he's a lecturer uh he

2699
01:40:29,149 --> 01:40:26,100
he actually was involved in unveiling

2700
01:40:31,129 --> 01:40:29,159
the multiple tranches of UFO documents

2701
01:40:33,950 --> 01:40:31,139
with the national archives in the UK so

2702
01:40:36,410 --> 01:40:33,960
so this is a guy who isn't just on the

2703
01:40:38,030 --> 01:40:36,420
inside uh he's one of us but he follows

2704
01:40:40,070 --> 01:40:38,040
the data absolutely and he's done a lot

2705
01:40:41,629 --> 01:40:40,080
together and data out there

2706
01:40:43,430 --> 01:40:41,639
um and just to add as well a lot of

2707
01:40:45,050 --> 01:40:43,440
people always bring up the the National

2708
01:40:45,890 --> 01:40:45,060
Archives are withholding data on the

2709
01:40:47,030 --> 01:40:45,900
Calvin

2710
01:40:49,850 --> 01:40:47,040
case

2711
01:40:52,189 --> 01:40:49,860
um they don't actually have

2712
01:40:53,870 --> 01:40:52,199
um any any images in those files anymore

2713
01:40:55,490 --> 01:40:53,880
we've seen all the images that they have

2714
01:40:57,770 --> 01:40:55,500
that black and white one the image that

2715
01:40:58,550 --> 01:40:57,780
David got is is better

2716
01:41:01,129 --> 01:40:58,560
um

2717
01:41:04,250 --> 01:41:01,139
so the only thing they're withholding

2718
01:41:05,810 --> 01:41:04,260
are the the witness details basically uh

2719
01:41:07,010 --> 01:41:05,820
which is you know we'd really like to

2720
01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:07,020
get

2721
01:41:11,810 --> 01:41:10,080
absolutely I mean as of this live stream

2722
01:41:13,610 --> 01:41:11,820
David is actually visiting the archives

2723
01:41:17,090 --> 01:41:13,620
tomorrow to look at some documents they

2724
01:41:19,490 --> 01:41:17,100
have only been released since in 2022 so

2725
01:41:21,229 --> 01:41:19,500
we might get some new information that

2726
01:41:23,209 --> 01:41:21,239
has been missing from certain cases

2727
01:41:26,990 --> 01:41:23,219
because these are these are Case Files

2728
01:41:28,850 --> 01:41:27,000
that are lettered A to Z and some of

2729
01:41:30,649 --> 01:41:28,860
them are missing and they've now been

2730
01:41:32,810 --> 01:41:30,659
put some of them back in and we want to

2731
01:41:34,189 --> 01:41:32,820
see what's in them so you never know in

2732
01:41:36,109 --> 01:41:34,199
the next few days we could get some new

2733
01:41:38,810 --> 01:41:36,119
information coming out of UK for once

2734
01:41:40,669 --> 01:41:38,820
which is a rare thing yeah absolutely

2735
01:41:42,109 --> 01:41:40,679
and this costs money to do as well it

2736
01:41:44,330 --> 01:41:42,119
costs money to get people to look at

2737
01:41:46,430 --> 01:41:44,340
these to release them so

2738
01:41:48,109 --> 01:41:46,440
along with you know maybe what will be a

2739
01:41:50,030 --> 01:41:48,119
mundane release with nothing exciting in

2740
01:41:51,709 --> 01:41:50,040
it we've got to ask who's providing the

2741
01:41:53,390 --> 01:41:51,719
funding for these things why is the UK

2742
01:41:55,070 --> 01:41:53,400
having the conversation this way yet not

2743
01:41:57,109 --> 01:41:55,080
really engaging on the whole shoot down

2744
01:41:59,330 --> 01:41:57,119
thing uh there's a lot of questions to

2745
01:42:01,310 --> 01:41:59,340
be asked

2746
01:42:03,290 --> 01:42:01,320
it's very true well that's why we got

2747
01:42:05,570 --> 01:42:03,300
gentlemen like you guys helping to push

2748
01:42:07,129 --> 01:42:05,580
the narrative forward and I'm hopeful

2749
01:42:09,649 --> 01:42:07,139
that the UK will

2750
01:42:12,109 --> 01:42:09,659
start at least publicly taking this as

2751
01:42:17,990 --> 01:42:12,119
seriously as I suspect they are

2752
01:42:22,850 --> 01:42:20,149
well listen guys we've hit an hour and

2753
01:42:24,169 --> 01:42:22,860
40 minutes Katie before we before we

2754
01:42:26,990 --> 01:42:24,179
send down away is there anything you

2755
01:42:29,510 --> 01:42:27,000
want to ask him before before we go

2756
01:42:32,030 --> 01:42:29,520
no I think we talked we touched on all

2757
01:42:33,470 --> 01:42:32,040
of it um I guess well one last question

2758
01:42:36,350 --> 01:42:33,480
I guess is where are you going next

2759
01:42:38,990 --> 01:42:36,360
what's what's on the before Colombia you

2760
01:42:41,090 --> 01:42:39,000
got five weeks in there yeah for sure so

2761
01:42:43,689 --> 01:42:41,100
uh well at the moment I'm in Merida

2762
01:42:46,310 --> 01:42:43,699
which is actually uh inside the crater

2763
01:42:47,689 --> 01:42:46,320
of the Meteo that wiped out the

2764
01:42:49,070 --> 01:42:47,699
dinosaurs which I realized when I

2765
01:42:51,229 --> 01:42:49,080
visited the museum yesterday I've been

2766
01:42:53,149 --> 01:42:51,239
saying wrong for my whole life uh I was

2767
01:42:55,609 --> 01:42:53,159
I always say a chisel bub it's not the

2768
01:42:59,090 --> 01:42:55,619
axis etch sound so it's

2769
01:43:00,410 --> 01:42:59,100
oh so yeah okay good learn but yeah they

2770
01:43:01,970 --> 01:43:00,420
have a really great museum here so I've

2771
01:43:03,830 --> 01:43:01,980
been enjoying all the dinosaur stuff and

2772
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:03,840
feeding my inner child

2773
01:43:07,790 --> 01:43:05,520
um visiting the the biggest crime scene

2774
01:43:10,370 --> 01:43:07,800
on the planet you know uh but next I'm

2775
01:43:13,129 --> 01:43:10,380
gonna go see some of the cenotes which

2776
01:43:14,810 --> 01:43:13,139
are basically made from rocks hitting

2777
01:43:16,609 --> 01:43:14,820
the ground and kind of making holes that

2778
01:43:18,410 --> 01:43:16,619
filled with beautiful water and just

2779
01:43:19,790 --> 01:43:18,420
they look like paradise basically you go

2780
01:43:22,189 --> 01:43:19,800
swimming in them

2781
01:43:23,390 --> 01:43:22,199
um as well as that uh Chichen Itza and

2782
01:43:25,970 --> 01:43:23,400
then hopefully I'll be added to

2783
01:43:27,709 --> 01:43:25,980
Guatemala to see Tikal and kind of work

2784
01:43:29,689 --> 01:43:27,719
in my way down through Colombia there

2785
01:43:31,550 --> 01:43:29,699
hopefully we'll find a kind of volunteer

2786
01:43:33,169 --> 01:43:31,560
program to enjoy as well and help give

2787
01:43:34,729 --> 01:43:33,179
back to the communities who have been so

2788
01:43:37,850 --> 01:43:34,739
welcome to me

2789
01:43:39,709 --> 01:43:37,860
amazing well enjoy the cenotes they are

2790
01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:39,719
the entrance to the Mayan underworld if

2791
01:43:44,330 --> 01:43:42,480
you believe the mythology so let us know

2792
01:43:46,370 --> 01:43:44,340
how that goes

2793
01:43:47,689 --> 01:43:46,380
I will do if you never see me again you

2794
01:43:48,850 --> 01:43:47,699
know where to find me the Mayan

2795
01:43:51,590 --> 01:43:48,860
underworld

2796
01:43:53,750 --> 01:43:51,600
that's amazing well listen Dan thank you

2797
01:43:55,129 --> 01:43:53,760
so much uh thank you to everyone in the

2798
01:43:57,709 --> 01:43:55,139
live chat as well for being here really

2799
01:43:59,930 --> 01:43:57,719
appreciate it next week I'm really

2800
01:44:01,430 --> 01:43:59,940
looking forward to me and ke have a busy

2801
01:44:03,649 --> 01:44:01,440
couple of days because we are going to

2802
01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:03,659
be recording an interview with Ross

2803
01:44:08,149 --> 01:44:05,520
coultart to which will be released a day

2804
01:44:10,970 --> 01:44:08,159
or two after and then next Wednesday we

2805
01:44:13,010 --> 01:44:10,980
will be live here with Sean Cahill I

2806
01:44:16,430 --> 01:44:13,020
can't wait for that one as well so busy

2807
01:44:17,990 --> 01:44:16,440
week next week Sean is so amazing he's

2808
01:44:19,669 --> 01:44:18,000
going to come with a lot of Grace and

2809
01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:19,679
knowledge and Russ is going to come with

2810
01:44:22,689 --> 01:44:21,360
a lot of ungraceful language and

2811
01:44:25,810 --> 01:44:22,699
knowledge

2812
01:44:29,629 --> 01:44:25,820
give me both I love it

2813
01:44:30,830 --> 01:44:29,639
amazing yeah thank you again Katie thank

2814
01:44:35,570 --> 01:44:30,840
you

2815
01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:35,580
for having me guys I love kind of coming

2816
01:44:38,270 --> 01:44:36,960
and talking and if you want to do this

2817
01:44:40,550 --> 01:44:38,280
again in future one I've got a few more

2818
01:44:43,609 --> 01:44:40,560
kind of ancient sites under my belt I'm

2819
01:44:45,180 --> 01:44:43,619
more than happy too absolutely my friend

2820
01:44:49,570 --> 01:44:45,190
but stay safe

2821
01:44:53,390 --> 01:44:49,580
[Laughter]